I cannot believe the clever way the Herald uses colonial history to try and sway people away from the reality of the world in Zimbabwe and the bigger global world we live in. The world has become truely interconnected and for that reason comments on unfair, dangerous and outrightly inhuman ways of dealing with countries and their people is open for comment and criticism. I think it is time for the Herald to realise Zimbabwe do not live in isolation from the rest of the world. If you want to continue the madness in Zimbabwe, time will overtake the insanity as it did in South Africa (prior to 1994) who also thought they could fight the world. Inhuman, undemocratic, unfair practices to only favouor a few (in government or only one sector) is absolutely not sustainable no matter how much you want to sugarcoat it in the jargon of "collonial threat speach". It is time for all dictatorships to realise that the game has changed. Even Thabo Mbeki had to realise that in a small way when Zuma ousted him. You cannot run a country by dividing it and try and rule as Mr Mugabe does by blaming his government's mistakes on others from outside, the oposition and the white farmers. Divide and rule does not serve the national interest and will result in a downfall even if it takes long. Wake up Herald and start talking sense!

Kubatana, I think most of us, whether black or white who contribute to this forum, are either living in, have lived in,or just care about Zimbabwe. One does not have to have an ultra motive to care about someone or something. There is a lot of strife going on in most parts of Africa and other parts of the world and we deplore them.WE are voicing our opinions about Zimbabwe because finally the people here have had enough and for the first time have enough guts to say to Mugabe "Just go away" through a democratic way. Because in spite of it ,he continues holding onto power at all costs, we fear that this will be the straw that broke the camel's back. I am amazed at the amount of restraint Zimbabweans have. If Mugabe continues to force himself on the majority, then it's a given they will snap and like Kenya there will be greater numbers killed. One person killed is one too many no matter where. Lastly Kubatana,if you think Zimbabwe is doing so well,I would like to ask you just a few questions and please give me your honest answer without any frills, bias or evasion. 1.What is the inflation rate in Zimbabwe? 2.What is the cost of mealie meal per bag - any size? 3What is the cost of a loaf of bread? 4.What is the cost of sugar? 5.What salary does a regular citizen without a major degree earn? Everyone earns in Zimbabwean dollars therefore I would like the answers to my questions in ZIm. dollars. You will find that the ordinary citizen falls far short.

kjrs, i dont have to answer your questions because i believe the inflation rate and unemployment figures reported are true. What many people fail to understand is that Zimbabwe is at WAR! With war comes hardship. Zimbabwe will NEVER turn into a bloodbath because deep down even black MDC voters know that Mugabe is RIGHT! How can a country with a black government do very well for 20 years and then go so bad. That it'self does not make sense - Try to think about it before putting Mugabe on the same level with the Idi Amins of this world.

Shame on you Kuba for failing to recognize in Mugabe what has been the trait of all leaders who hang on to power for too long. Even the historic greats like Julias Ceasar couldn't hold on to power forever. Eventually the people rise up against a dictator.

Open your eyes and see the truth.

I cannot believe the clever way the Herald uses colonial history to try and sway people away from the reality of the world in Zimbabwe and the bigger global world we live in. The world has become truely interconnected and for that reason comments on unfair, dangerous and outrightly inhuman ways of dealing with countries and their people is open for comment and criticism. I think it is time for the Herald to realise Zimbabwe do not live in isolation from the rest of the world. If you want to continue the madness in Zimbabwe, time will overtake the insanity as it did in South Africa (prior to 1994) who also thought they could fight the world. Inhuman, undemocratic, unfair practices to only favouor a few (in government or only one sector) is absolutely not sustainable no matter how much you want to sugarcoat it in the jargon of "collonial threat speach". It is time for all dictatorships to realise that the game has changed. Even Thabo Mbeki had to realise that in a small way when Zuma ousted him. You cannot run a country by dividing it and try and rule as Mr Mugabe does by blaming his government's mistakes on others from outside, the oposition and the white farmers. Divide and rule does not serve the national interest and will result in a downfall even if it takes long. Wake up Herald and start talking sense!

Hey white South African, dont worry it's comming your way too. The blacks in South Africa need the land and they will get it. In fact your government is keeping very quiet about it but it has already started. You are next!

Kubatana. First time I can reply to your first comment on my comment I posted. That SA may do the same as Zimbabwe is possible. If they allow it they will just be as dumb, arrogant and ignorant as Mugabe. But that transformation and land transfer in SA needs to take place - absolutely so. Whether they come for me or not is irrelevant. The issue is more - will they be so dumb and arrogant to destroy a country just to line their pockets at the expense of their own people - like Mugabe did. Where is the wealth of the Zimbabweabn people. Most of it in the private bank of Mugabe and his chronies in Switserland. Have you asked yourself why his wife can shop at the most expensive places in the world while the ordinary Zimbabwean can hardly afford a bread. Open you eyes to reality around you! My hope is for Zimbabweans to solve their own issue but to do it to the benefit of all and not only to the benefit of old party hardliners. Stop playing rhetoric that stinks and make the country work and grow for all!!

Hey white S.A, Bush,his Cronies and families also shop in the best shops in the world and yet there is a very poor public health system, many blacks are living under cardboard boxes and there is a serious drug problem in the U.S. It happens in every country - you just cant see beyond Mugabe. Land transformation has got nothing to do with being dumb. The way you and your cronies want it done,no black will ever get land because you claim they dont know how to farm. Like i said before european's did not settle in Africa as experienced farmers - they learnt how to farm. So blacks can do that too.

Kubatana, White South African is not undermining Africans or Zimbabwe. He is stating facts and in fact you should be thanking him for his good wishes. Mrs Laura Bush certainly shops in incredibly expensive shops because her husband is wealthy in his own right.The Bush family has been wealthy for generations. Every country has very poor people. You speak of black people living in cardboard boxes in America - yes - but you fail to mention that many whites too live under those same conditions.Drugs play a major part. Many are drug addicts and alcoholics and their own families kick them out - hence being homeless. Some are Vietnam vets with many issues from the Vietnam war, drug use alcoholism and mental problems. There again their families kick them out and it becomes an enormous problem for the government and the organizations that try to help because there is no family support. Before criticizing others about their poor why not first look at your own front door.What did Mugabe do to the poor Zimbabweans that lived in shanty homes within the city limits? He bulldozed their homes and left them shivering in the cold - men, women and children.

So what about Bush? Most people think he's a rubbish leader, including more than half of all Americans. You think that because Bush is a hypocrite and bad leader it's okay for Mugabe to do the same? Of course you do, you're as big a hypocrite as them, they must be your heroes.

Hi my friend. I am so sorry for this very late reply but I have been out of reach for some time. I can just donfirm what the other people's response was to your and my statements and responses. Understand one thing very clearly. I will not stay in any other place but Africa - I am an african despite my white skin. Zimbabwe, where I have visited and worked is a place I would desperately like to see being succesful and restored to its former glory. I can however not see how this possible with a despotic regime that kills its own people. Surely the 20000 Matabeles, and the shack dwellers around Harare cannot be all cronies of Britain? I think we should rather pray that sanity will step in and that people will start taking hands - whether black, white, indian, matabele, shona - this doesn't matter, but to start finding solutions for Zimbabwe to work. Stop blaming whites, stop blaming whoever and start focussing on the building of a better future for all. As long as you fight your brother, of any creed, colour, persuasion, etc. the house remains divided. My hope is that Zimbabwe will become a better place for all of Zimbabwe and for you too.

It is already happening 1500 dead white farmers and 9000 attacks. However I think there will come a point when another round of free for all violence will be stopped one way or another, the UN are in posession of the report. I think it's very funny how people fall for the illusion of farm seizures masquerading as "Black Economic Empowerment", when in Zimbabwe it has been proven to be Black Elite Enrichment.

The Herald pays it's zanupf bootlickers to write this rubbish. All the while, there is nothing said about the zanupf military operation where these goons are attacking people because they dared to vote for someone they don't like. Morgan Tsvangirai is a dedicated Zimbabwean. He has been fighting this regime for years USING DEMOCRATIC NON VIOLENT METHODS. The Herald is brimming with zanupf clones who typically denigrate anyone who is a threat to zanupf, which clearly Tsvangirai is. Tsvangirai has beaten zanupf and that includes Mugabe. That is exactly why Mugabe won't release the results until they have been altered to his favour himself. The delay in releasing the Presidential results has been deliberately done to give zanupf time to beat and murder innocent civilians and scare them into voting zanupf at the rigged run-oof that they are about to impose on the people.

All who have commented on this article are ignorant and racist!What gives Britain the right to make any comment after the atrocities and genocide they carried out against the people of Zim. And GW Bush can't say anything about a bogus election! He was selected for office by the Supreme Court! Dear people of Zimbabwe, do not fall for their tricks. Prosperity may be had for a few if you were to sell out, but you would soon find that this few would even turn their guns against you and invite whites back to rape, pillage and exploit again. What would Nehanda and Kaguri do? Onward to the Chimerenga!

I did not know before this event that some of us Africans are really "Slaves". Else, how on earth can anyone support the actions of Mugabwe? Stop blaming "White People" for all our ills! Most of our leaders as evidenced by the daily happenings in our Countries compete with those we term as armed robbers. Ever heard of Mr Obasanjo of Nigeria? Is he a White man?

Its amazing how easily the race card gets thrown around. If I dont agree with you, its nothing to do with the colour of your skin. Look at the numbers. Inflation. Unemployment. Life Expectancy. Nothing to do with race. Bad governance. Mugabe based on these numbers is the worst leader in the world. I am white. Does that make me a racist saying that? I dont think so.

The problem some of us have with you is WHY ZIMBABWE! Why be so vocal about Zimbabwe when there are worse places on earth. Just look at Sudan and Kenya - so many more people have died there and are still being killed as we speke and yet we find no one wants to know. It's just, keep knocking Mugabe and Zimbabwe. So how do you expect us to feel? I and many others feel that these attacks are racially motivated.

I dont know about you, but whenever I see people suffering, I dont like it. It doesnt matter what colour of skin they have. And people world wide focus on Zim because of the mis-governance there that has led to a life expectancy of 34 years and think that a change of government will help to ease the suffering of those people. They dont care about minerals or land ownership. Its all about helping the Zim people. The same Zim people that have spoken in favour of the MDC this election.

let me tell you why Zim Kuba its obviously because Zimbabwe is one of richest countries in the world and seeing if suffer like this is the reason why pepo talk so much abt it im sure you knoe that zim was once Africas basket of Bread. We honestly cant suffer because of one person who only thinks of no one but himself, wat kind of a nation is he leading if a family member is sick and admitted at the governmental hospital you need to buy all the medication including the Drips is that the way you wish to live??????????????

let me tell you why Zim Kuba its obviously because Zimbabwe is one of richest countries in the world and seeing if suffer like this is the reason why pepo talk so much abt it im sure you knoe that zim was once Africas basket of Bread. We honestly cant suffer because of one person who only thinks of no one but himself, wat kind of a nation is he leading if a family member is sick and admitted at the governmental hospital you need to buy all the medication including the Drips is that the way you wish to live??????????????

Seti, Nahenda and Kaguri would have both hands at the backs of the base of their necks and would be weeping at what Mugabe is doing to their people.

Guys, do not waste your time criticising The Herald, They also do not have skilled editorial stuff, they have no idea what they are doing. They do not upset me at all because no one takes them seriously any more, at least no one who can read!

Cuthbert The Hustler!

Ha... reminds me of that guy who used to do the information for Saddam Hussein.. ended up being called Comical Ali... he was saying the US was going down and the mighty Iraqi army was in control.... where you could see over his shoulder US tanks in the next neighbourhood... I think the Herald writers have definatley lost the same sense of reality...

Hey Inde, i think you guys are more like comical Ali. You talk about mass starvation in Zimbabwe and yet we have not seen one photo to prove it. You talk about mass beatings, intimidation,human right violations and yet anyone is free to go abroad and return. Five years ago you guys were saying that Zimbabwe is on it's knee's,it's finished - so what happened? Still standing. You guys dont really know what you are talking about. It's just one massive fabricated lie just because Mugabe dont want to play ball with you no more. Shame on you and the rest of the 'Comical Stupids' out there.

Hey Kube,

Yeah, you're right, Zimbabwe is still standing. I guess a life expectancy of 34 years is not so bad is it. How many years do you have left? I guess if you're happy with the situation in Zimbabwe at the moment, lets just leave it then. I mean 34 years on earth is better than none right? I think the numbers speak for themselves. How many Zimbabweans enjoy 3 good sized meals a day? The next question is why not.

Inde, i for one never grew up on the 'three good sized meals a day' you are talking about and that was in your rhodesia (Most black's lived like that). If the life expectancy is 34 years old ,hey just wait two years and there will be no one left - then you can move in and get 'your' farms back. Like i said before - there are worse places on this earth than Zimbabwe. Why dont you put your time into the problems in Iraq, Afganistan,Sudan and Kenya? You only blast Zimbabwe because the white man has lost land. Sorry! but we can SEE right through you.

Kube, you make it sound like I am British. not even close. I dont have farms that I want back, or any other vested interested in Zimbabwe other than to see the right things done by the people of Zim. I just find it interesting to see all the lies and propaganda of the pro mugabe people. It amazes me the stuff they come up with, when, at the end of the day, the country is in the sh!t. You laugh off the fact that people on average only live to 34 years. How can you defend a government that has changed the bread basket of africa into the basket case of africa. Why if it is so good there, are people leaving by the millions? How can you defend that? I know you like playing devils advocate, but really, sometimes you are just taking the piss!

indie, dont you worry Zimbabwe will be just fine - sometimes you have to go back to go forward and like i said there are worse places on this earth than Zimbabwe. If your good heart is in the right place do something to help Sudan,Iraq,Afganistan and Kenya. Dont worry about Zimbabwe - it will be fine!

How far back do you have to go? 300,000% inflation? Z$60,000,000,000 to the US$? Life expectancy of 25?

Anyone can demolish a house in one day. How long does it take to build one? The further back you go the harder it takes to rebuild. For every year of decline four years are needed to replace what is lost.

mindy, i dont know where you get your figures from but life expectancy of 25????? - and even if that is true i guess Mugabe is to blame again. You must have a new strain of HIV because you are very,very,very sick.

Learn to read you fool. I did not say the life expectancy was 25 I was asking a question. Just how bad does it have to get before YOU will accept that there is a problem in Zimbabwe? From your other posts I would expect your attitude won't change until your own family is suffering.

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him.

haha so you admit that Bob is taking the country backwards? Finally you are starting to make some sense. About time!

I've always said Bob is taking the country backwards. When have I ever said anything to the contrary?

Oops, thought that was to me. This threading system isn't the best designed :-D

Nope it needs some work :-) Of course I was referring to our good friend Kube who provides me with such great entertainment on a daily basis.

Hey mindy, look now your comrades are turning on you. And i told you so.

You are sick. You have a very short memory. You do not know what you are talking about. You are so brain-washed, and its a mere waste of time to really argue with a moron like you. You have the eyes, you can't see; you have the ears but you can't here.

Shame on you.

I honetsly cnt believe u have the guts to say such. Or maybe you dont come from Zimbabwe coz I doubt u will be saying such if u came from Zimbabwe Or staying there? I used to go to school with my own Grocery but i would still have satisfyng food at school now our kids have to bring the grocery for the school and themselves why because of the poor ruling we get from the greedy president. Are u in nwae related to this guy ?if yes no wonder why BUT if no then u u such a hypocrite my brother u dont have a heart believe me how on earth can you support someone who has spent the nations money on his own pocket his wife does expensive shoppings overseas with your money and mine too the taxs we both pay wake up and think positively Its high time this Greedy man steps down we need a new beggining to all this

according to the writer of the article i can tell that his his government know that it is causing so much harm but would rather the world didn't complain. How can you quote the very constitution that has been violated so many times. What does the law say as to when the results should be released? Of course even when you kill your own kid you are taken to court and charged with murder so you cant think that its no ones concern.

No hand being dealt by the "white colonial rulers" (that term has become soooo redundant) can match up to the death, hunger, torture and suffering being dealt to the Zimbabwean people by one of their own. Mugabe has been beating the "colonial rulers" dead horse endlessly, underestimating the intelligence of the Zimbabwean people. The Zimbabwean people were not the beneficiaries when independence was achieved, only a handful of Mugabe's Zanu-PF thugs were.

Mugabe, your time has run out. Morgan Tsvangirai is coming for you, and he is going to give Zimbabwe back to the deserving beneficiaries, the people of Zimbabwe. Anyone with Zimbabwean citizenship who loves Zimbabwe and want to rebuild Zimbabwe, is a Zimbabwean, irrespective of colour, creed or race.

Zimbabweans, keep fighting, the battle will be won! Mugabe can't even call himself a Zimbabwean anymore, he lost that privilege eight years ago. Go Morgan, you have the support of all people with conscience!

And lastly, keep the Chinese as far away from Zimbabwe as possible, they don't care about Zimbabwe or her people. They will strip Zimbabwe of all her resources at the expense of the Zimbabweans.

If i were you i'd be worried about your own back yard. You have had it too good for too long and your time is up. Your land will go too - it's just a matter of time. You will only tolerate a black government if they can ensure that blacks remain under-priveliged.

Kubatana6 who also calls himself Selector is a deluded psychopath.Whoever this fellow is, his arguments are null and void.He lacks objectivity and has a shallow understanding of Zimbabwe's history versus the dynamics of the modern world.This world is a dynamic place that needs dynamic thinkers who are not myopic and paranoid like Selector.The theories that you are inventing about the West are useless and shameful.No present day leader can cry foul in his failure to uphold human rights and rule of law by attributing the failures of his government to sanctions.We all know what sanctions can do to any country, especially a vulnerable economy such as Zimbabwe's.Mugabe himself knew about consequences of these sanctions before they were even implemented and he was gutless to swallow his pride and avoid them at all costs.If he was unable to do so, this could have been a wake up call for him that the repurcussions would put his government in trouble. In as far as I have known Mugabe eversince he came to power, he has been a very strategical and shrewed politician whose major shortcomings was failure to acknowledge an error of Judgement.Mugabe has a very hypocritical personae that he wants to present to Zimbabweans unceasingly, with a deliberate attempt not to reflect any of his weaknesses.That is how he has ruled the country for the past 28 years.He does not know to face his demons and admit that I underestimated the situation.He is an arrogant old man who thinks he alone has the overall knowledge to prescribe what is good for Zanu-PF and Zimbabwe.For Mugabe if anything is good for his party then it transcends to be good for Zimbabwe.People like Kubatana suffer from bigotry and hence try to present themselves as crusaders to safeguard African Sovereignity that is at threat from the West.Western countries are playing both major developmental and humanitarian roles in many parts of the developing world, besides Zimbabwe.You mentioned Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia etc these countries can not be compared with the standard of living that existed in Zimbabwe in 1980.The country was hailed as an African success story and in Mugabe, white people saw a leader who was unique and conciliatory( in every sense of the word) whereas Joshua Nkomo: who had a strong Russian influence, was going to be a thorn in the flesh of white interests. Mugabe was able to rule without sanctions despite his mis-handling of the dissident issue in Matabeleland that resulted with an unwarranted murder of thousands of innocent villagers. Mugabe was not censured for this behaviour, because the economy was doing well and white people had their land intact.Rodger Boka had also become rich through his tobbacco auctions.Mugabe always knew about the sensitive nature of the land question that Joshua Nkomo championed throughout his whole struggle against the Whites, but Mugabe was unable to handle this question properly, because he found negotiating with the Whites presented very difficulty challenges to contend with and was also frustrating.The pressure on Mugabe finally proved too bigger than his mental abilities when his party's popularity hit the lowest ebb.Mugabe has a penchant of ignoring principles of democracy when he is under pressure.He has shown this in the past and that is why he is no a good example of a modern day leader.As expected Mugabe unleashed the disgruntled war veterans and the rest is history.The West now wanted to show Mugabe who rules the roost and the dictactor now is resorting to killing his own people and telling us that he is not to blame. What a load of rubbish.Kubatana6 and co who are you trying to fool.

Does everyone think how much of an Idiot Kub is? He never comments on the Articles as he doesnt have a relevent word to say about them. All he can do is get off the subject at hand and try to blame other people for the things that are happening. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Ill give you a hint 'THE RULING GOVERNMENT'. Kub if your not worried about the people in Zim don't comment. You may have been born their etc but you definitely don't show any compassion for her people. The reason Westerners write on this forum is because they have a conscience. Seriously 'Grow Up' your continual flogging of the same crappy excuses is now getting old.

be free, why dont you westerners comment on the Sudan or Kenyan site? You dont have the guts to answer that because you know i know why. For the love of black Zimbabweans??? - There are places worse than Zimbabwe that needs you 'HELP'.

Kub, this is a Zimbabwean site so why would we comment on those countries on here? From now on, when you comment make sure it is directed at the article, not personal or race attacks. Again your comment had no relevance to the article or the crisis at hand in Zimbabwe.

beefree, for a minute i thought this was your site? I have the right to say what i want and defend Zimbabwe from people of your way of thinking. I have exposed your lies on many occasions and you avoid answering many questions. By the way this site is called allafrica.com not Zimbabwe or rhodesia.com - there are over 50 countries in Africa in case you didn't know.

You really are dumb, yeah it is called allafrica.com and there are over 50 countries in Africa. at least you spoke the tuth on something hey. But again, these articles are all on Zimbabwe not any other countries which you try to involve. Now again please explain to us all which lies you have exposed and let me know which answers i havent given.

by the way you are not defending it. You are defending Mugabe. You know damn well that people are being tortured and beaten and in some sad cases KILLED because they voted for the 'WRONG PARTY' yet yo sit back and say that it is all the fault of everyone else.

befree, iv'e asked you about photo's of these 'starving Zimbabweans' many times but alas - NO ANSWER!

And I've answered you and you say stupid things like "it's not really starving if you're not skin and bones like those in Somalia" and "one meal is enough for anyone".

Only death by starvation would be extreme enough for you to admit there's a problem. Get your head out of the sand.

Well said Mindy, no doubt Kub has a dumb answer for you.

oh sorry, i thought everyone else had explained that to you. Kub, Journalists who are going to report on the things that will hurt Mugabe are not allowed in. everyone has explained this to you yet it doesnt seem to get through your head.

befree, so in this advanced computer and Cell phone world we all live in (including Zimbabwe) no photo's can be seen? I have taken 100's of photo's of wildlife and people on a recent visit and on one stopped me. Like i said where are the photo's of these so called 'starving people'. Lies,lies,lies and more lies again from you.

No, it's lies from you Kuba. I have friends in conservation societies in Zim, you can't pretend you know the wildlife situation in Zim.

I posted a photo of young children scratching amongst the rubbish for food. Do you deny that?

MINDY, that must have been one 'fantastic photo' because i and the rest of the world did not see it! Why didn't you sell this special photo of yours to the BBC or CNN so the world could see it? You can lie as much as you want about the wildlife in Zimbabwe been all eaten by 'starving' people but it just dont wash with me and the large group of tourist from France and China that saw an abundance of wildlife on safari last November.

It's not MY photo you dummy, I posted a link to a photo on a news site! I suppose you're gonna deny the photos Glyph linked to now too.

Time for you to be honest now, the wildlife you saw was in a game reserve, am I right?

I saw it... was a digrace to see what has become of Zimbabwe. I think Kub is on the Zanu PF propoganda pay role. Comical Kub I think I will call him. (After Comical Ali of course)

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him.

Kub just thinks that all the killings and violence is ok, because its worse elsewhere. And that because its worse elsewhere Zim's violence should just go unnoticed under the radar. Yeah, it sure is ok that only 33 people have died (with surely ALOT more to follow) because alot more have died elsewhere. Sure if 1 person had died, thats a travesty!

Yes all things need to be addressed. Please don't give one thought/comment boundaries. It's just a revelation of limited thinking capacity.

28 years of leadership = plummeting economy = suffering civilians and neighboring states = Robert Mugabe. It's as simple as ABC. HELLO!!!!!!!!. Is this a joke that zimbabwe is the way she is today because of the brits? I don't see any humor in pointing the gun to the wrong people. The person in denial is the LAST to know that he isn't what he thinks he is... a successfully poor leader... self vested interests. It's the biggest EGO trip. Mugabe will not admit he is old and finished and that it's time in the race to give the batton to the young and more viable runner. He is DRUNK with POWER along with his followers and party that won't admit defeat. Zimbabwe is in dire need for new blood and new thinking. She has perished long enough under the constraints of a mad man. HE breeds hatred for the country's history only to topple the pillars of her strength. I think Robert needs to be counseled. What are you waiting for Madela?? This is a very sick man. Some Zimbabwean's better put the thinking caps and start thinking mpore and looks a bit further than their noses.... because it seems that many of them can't anymore see too far outside the forest.....LOST (but think they can find the way..... and the trees in the forests are the thoughts and teachings of Robert Mugabe. I'm only speaking for the GOOD of CHANGE!

Tsvangirai at least has the ear of the majority of the Zimbabwean people. A stooge to the powers that be - definitely not ! Mugabe on the other hand wears many caps and it has been noticed that he bears the symbol of the Masonic Order on his finger ! Does'nt that tell you something ? That is possibly why he gets so much support from his gutless neighbours (SADC)as they may also belong to the same club. The days of "pamberi ne Mugabe!" are fast drawing to a close, unfortunately, at high cost to the Zimbabwean people. I suggest that the Herald continue writing garbage and hopefully drown in the cesspit that they have created.

Kubatana, you are so ignorant ! If you are infact a Zimbabwean then you should have some idea how the local "povu" are suffering under Mugabe's rule. When people have to revert to eating Msasa seeds which are not very nutritious and "derere" from the bush and whatever else they can find that may have some nutritional value and suffer cronic malnutrition,then I would say that there is wide scale starvation in Zimbabwe brought on by yours truly,RGM and Co. Wake up ! or better still, go back to sleep !

ex Zimbo, I must say that it is you that appears ignorant. Take away all the economic restrictions and sanctions imposed by international financial institutions at the behest of UK-led West and you have the successful, stable and 'sel-sufficient' (sic) economy that Western detractors are already promising the people of Zimbabe if they get rid of Mugabe. What other name can possibly be give to such externally driven efforts other than attempts at 'regime change', illegal under international law. Considering the crime rate in Zimbabwe is considerably lower, per capita, than neighbouring South Africa and many other developing countries, what reason do international final institutions have not reschedule Zimbabwe debt or extend recovery loans other than power US and EU vetos? Particulary in light of the fact that should they succeed in removing Mugabe, the floodgates of will open for torrents of finacial assistance. Sadly for the majority of black Zimbabweans, such assistance will come only by allowing minority non-black control of fertile lands, as is the case throughout all Africa. Zimbabwe, by any means necessary, cannot be allowed to succeed for the notion of black African independence is not one that the ex-colonial West can stomach or wishes to see as a empowering virus raging across the continent with Zimbabwe as a ground-breaking success story. So external forces have employed fair mean and foul to undermine the government of Zimbabwe and then the economy of Zimbabwe with the mantra, 'if you won't do it our way, you won't be allowed to do it at all'. Not so long ago, a Western coalition illegally invaded Iraq under the pretext of searching for illegal weapons that, it transpires, they knew did not exist. Coaliation forces subsequently enforces removal of the president and allowed his execution - so that he may speak no more. The subsequent 'democratic' elections were flawed inasmuch as most of the ruling party had either been imprisoned or killed so that the 'choice' of candidates had been hand picked and approved by coalition forces. Today, the imposed Iraqi government is powerless to militant forces and 'hundreds of thousands' of innocent civilians including women and children have lost their lives since the Western 'saviours' arrived. In the meantime, Western companies have secured long-term rebuilding and oil exploration and extraction contracts. The fragile peace that existed in the region has been destroyed and the situation "excacerbated" by Western intervention according to senior UK and US military. This is the sorry future of Zimbabwe, if the WEst gets its way which I sincerely hope and pray they do not.

Selector. Phew ! I see you also have been brainwashed. The days of dictatorships and rule by fear and intimidation are becoming a thing of the past and people, as they become more educated, are less tolerant and are standing up to the thuggery imposed upon them. Deprive a man of his basic necessities and he will eventually rebel. History has proved it. Sure there is plenty of political skullduggery going on from both the west and east, all trying to exploit countries like Zimbabwe that have something to offer in the way of minerals etc. No one really cares or loses sleep over Zimbabwe, but those who show some interest invarably have an ulterior motive and that revolves around the Dollar. However, there are some of us who have a less selfish reason for caring about the well-being of a country that we were born in, and we will support the people in what ever way we can.

ex zimbo, show me one picture of someone starving? Yes you will say that the bbc and other reporters are not allowed into Zimbabwe - that does not stop local Zimbabweans from sending pictures via mobile phone,internet,and post. Just go down town Harare on a Wednesday or Thursday night and see for yourself how many people are in the bars drinking. These people cant be zanu pf because they are complaining about the situation and yet enjoying the Bolingers. So what 'starving' are you talking about? Shake your head - your eye balls are stuck.

Kubatana. I see you too are brain-washed by Zanu-PF controlled media etc. Sure you will find a few fat well nourished people running around Harare, but take a look just down the road into areas where most of the "povo" exist, and I say exist ! You will see evidence of hunger, disease and a population that is desperate and about to give up all hope of ever being normal again. Why do you think foreign journalists are barred from entering the rural areas ? We all know why, because the goverment does not want the outside world to see. No photos, only word of mouth which people like you disbelieve. Surely, if 80% of the population are unemployed and the government are not feeding them,then anyone who has the smallest of brains will realize that hunger does exist !

Zimbabweans in rural areas are feeding themselves not your white farmers and this 'bread basket' nonsense. Your white farmers were mainly planting cash crops like Tobbaco and cotton 165 000% inflation,85% unemployment - these figures speke for themselves. Which country in the world has been through that? So the question begs - what are they eating?

i find it appalling that someone who comes from zimbabwe can say there is no suffering there. i come from zim myself and its people like kubatana that give way to mugabe and allow him to continue abusing the people of zim. if you had an ounce of education in you you would see the situation for what it is and not listen to propaganda. the white farmers though they had their own sins at least gave food to zims. such small minded thinking is the reason why so many zims are suffering.

MAROSTI, white farmers contrary to popular belief white farmers never really fed the nation. They planted cash crops like tobbaco and cotton and made themselves extremly wealthy. If they were feeding the nation how now are 12 million people still alive without them? I have no doubt that there are shortages but to say people are 'starving' - well, recent election photo's show pretty healthy looking people. Where are the photo's of these 'starving' people?

Kubatana - you sound like a stuck record ! Contary to what you believe, the 4,500 or so commercial farmers (mostly White)employed a fair number of Zimbabweans both on a permanent and casual basis. Crops grown included tobacco and cotton (cash crops) and above all white maize, soya beans,wheat and other food crops which not only fed the nation but the surplus fed much of the surrounding region.This surplus gave the country the much needed foreign currency that it lacks today ! Interestingly, the labour employed by the commercial farmers all had extended families that lived in the rural areas and were supported by those same workers. The 12 million people today are barely making ends meet and those few lucky ones are supported by those who fled Zim into neibouring countries at extreme cost. The "fat-cats" in Mugabe's Govt.live off what little is left of what was once a prosperous country. Morgan Tsvangirai's Govt. could bring back some normality to the situation.

Kuba, I'm amazed at your ignorance. In the 80s Zim was producing so much food it was EXPORTING the surplus. Now the farms can't even keep Zim population alive. These facts are very easy to check, aren't you worried about how stupid you will look when people look them up?

dont worry about Kube... he's just an uneducated fool.

They are eating msasa leaves. See what nutrition you get from that. No hunger? Kubatana I just find it very difficult to comprehend how people like you can look aside and pretend that the people in Zimbabwe are merrily going about their day. Perhaps the midwife dropped you on your head the day you were born - that's what.

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him.

Where are the photo's of these 'starving' people? Recent photo's of this election show pretty heathly people and some fatty's also. My question is - are these 12 million starving Zimbabweans locked away in a consentration camp or what?

Why do you keep on about what the people looked like in election footage? Firstly only a quarter of the population is registered to vote, secondly anyone starving to death is hardly likely to be standing in front of TV cameras in a voting queue.

Your "evidence" is nonsense!

No hand being dealt by the "white colonial rulers" (that term has become soooo redundant) can match up to the death, hunger, torture and suffering being dealt to the Zimbabwean people by one of their own. Mugabe has been beating the "colonial rulers" dead horse endlessly, underestimating the intelligence of the Zimbabwean people. The Zimbabwean people were not the beneficiaries when independence was achieved, only a handful of Mugabe's Zanu-PF thugs were.

Mugabe, your time has run out. Morgan Tsvangirai is coming for you, and he is going to give Zimbabwe back to the deserving beneficiaries, the people of Zimbabwe. Anyone with Zimbabwean citizenship who loves Zimbabwe and want to rebuild Zimbabwe, is a Zimbabwean, irrespective of colour, creed or race.

Zimbabweans, keep fighting, the battle will be won! Mugabe can't even call himself a Zimbabwean anymore, he lost that privilege eight years ago. Go Morgan, you have the support of all people with conscience!

And lastly, keep the Chinese as far away from Zimbabwe as possible, they don't care about Zimbabwe or her people. They will strip Zimbabwe of all her resources at the expense of the Zimbabweans.

Quite right. Leave Zimbabwe to Zimbabweans who are more than able and intelligent enough to deal with their own issues with the assistance of SADC and the African Uniuon if required. Now will Britain, America and the UK back out. Your attentions, whilst flattering and appreciate, are superflous to the democratic Republic of Zimbabwe's and southern Africa's requirements.

Zimbabwe's population statistics (infant mortality, death rates..etc) are often used as evidence to prove Mugabe is bad. Yet a simple Analysis of variance to make comparisons across population data for each of the countries will show that Zimbabwe is not an outlier at all. Zimbabwe's trends are exactly the same as that of its neighbours due to AIDS and its attendant opportunistic infections and infant mortality. So, unless Bob's rule has injected HIV into people, the assertion that he has caused falling life expectancy is idiotic.

The type of propaganda about Zimbabwe's life expectancy is just meant for the idiot who cant use facts to create reality. Actually, Zimbabwe is the only country in the region with falling HIV infection rates, despite refusal of funding from international bodies controlled by america.

Is Zimbabwe's trend of 80% unemployment and 165,000% Inflation the same as its neighbours when it was not all that long ago a solid economy with high employment? if your so happy about the Trends being the same as that of neighboring countries why don't you move and not worry about writing on the Zim site? Dont try and make excuses and comparisons. The issue at hand is Zimbabwe, not its neighbours hence the reason why we all comment on the unemployment, inflation rate and the life expectancy.

befree, like i said you just an IDIOT! Why do you continue to knock Zimbabwe and yet other counties are showing the same figures and some even worse. As less than a 100 people have died in Zimbabwe because of this seven year conflict. 1000 been killed in Kenya within two weeks of unrest. 100 000 killed in Iraq. How can you even compare these figures? Go help someone else because Zimbabwe doesn't need you.

Wrong, It doesnt need people like you who keep bringing it down. im not knocking it. im knocking the way it is run and that it is time for change. Do you honestly believe that everything is alright and it will all sort it self out. If you do, you really need to open your eyes as your the idiot. Tell me a country that shows these figures. These unemployment and inflation rates are the highest of any country outside a war zone and thats the facts so how can you defend it?

Yes, ZANU PF has corrupt individuals (most of them I must say), but you must be stupid to believe that corruption is the sole reason for collapse of zim economy.It does not take einstein to figure out that the country has been under sanctions.If not, why is it that this same corrupt government managed the country relatively well in the first 15 years or so, then suddenly when land reforms started there was a downward spiral in the economy? Those people who think the reason for that was because land was given to unskilled black people are mostly wrong. Yes, in the minority of incidences it was but the major reason is that, because of sanctions, the government was not able to access foreign currency to purchase necesary equipment to distribute to black farmers compunded by the fact that most black farmers were not able to access loans from banks because the banks had no access to foreign currency.I think blind support and hate of the government is not good for progress.All sides must be fairly represented in the media.However, corruption and imposition of leaders in ZANU PF is a big problem.

Why are there people trying to defend the idefensible? Why has the country got a runaway inflation rate? I have visited Rhodesia, as it was then, and found it to be very pleasant! I lived in South Africa for some time and have visited Mozambique, Namibia and ALL Southern Africa. Why is it only Zimbabwe that has inflation problems? With All these problems Why has the President got 4(FOUR) castles? He has bled zimbabwe dry!! If this is not the case, then why is South Africa, Mozambique, Namibia etc. in the same financial crisis????

Hey kien, you dont have to tell us that rhodesia was great. It was fantastic as long as you were white. Zimbabwe's current problems are because you just wont let go! You and the western media fabricate all sorts of lies to make the place look like it's hell on earth. Black Zimbabweans have dispite these hardships proved beyond a shadow of doubt that they are survivers.

The western chaps should just forget about coming back to africa through the ballot box...their racist inclination is the downfall.

All real africans know about this and no wonder Morgan is not being supported by the AU. Africans do not like stooges just like in the colonial era!

AFRICA IS NOT FOR THE FAINTHEARTED... !

Britain isn't interested in "coming back to Africa", there are enough problems in the UK without having to take on African problems. Besides, even if they did (which is never) they could never ever do anything like that with the world watching so closely.

Your "recolonization" nonsense is no more than a weak excuse for not accepting that Åfrican leaders like Mugabe have made a mess of their countries.

Kube, if this the case then

1) Why did so many people vote for the MDC, for change? More than for the current government. Surprisingly the Herald managed to actually report this correctly.

2) Why dont you go back and live there because it is so great? I guess living in New Zealand must be heaven for you.

Kube - see what I did there? I used a fact in my argument. Ie something you cant argue about. Works well for discussion dont you think. Maybe you should try it some time then people wont think you are such an idiot. Now are you going to try and tell me that more people voted for Bob?

Of course it is the sole reason, the sanctions wouldnt be there if it wasnt for these corrupt officials. I agree with the Blacks being given back the land it was done in totally the wrong way. It should have gone to skilled people who knew how to farm it (Preferably one of the workers). The previous owner should have been paid out accordingly after teaching the new owner all the tricks of the trade. This may have taken 10 years but that is a lot better than 20 white farmers being killed and i would say more of the workers were killed as i know they were brutally tortured and it is happening again. At least all the workers would have had stable employment and food on the table aswell as the rest of the country. Then to really kick farmers and farm hands in the guts, the ZANU-PF cronies took the farms for themselves. now can you see that these corrupt people have led the country this way and is the sole reason for the sanctions hence the reason for the collapse. Why would other countries not put sanctions on Zim if all that it is feeding is the Pig at the top, his favorites and used to buy votes in a democracy.

befree, you are right no country shows these dreadfull figures. But hey dispite that Zimbabwe is still standing. four years ago they said Zimbabwe was on it's last breath - what happened? Still standing without the white farmer. You guys have got this great fear that Zimbabwe will turn it's fortunes around without your help. It is infact YOU that is living in the past and just will not accept the reality that the blacks have taken the land back. rhodesia is long gone, move on.

Zimbabwe is still standing - my foot.Only the buildings are still standing. The country is on its haunches.With its highest inflation rate in the world,so many people out of work and millions understandably fleeing to South Africa to seek work and food, how can any anyone deny that there is a serious problem. A bag of amacimbi (mopane worms) cost a whopping 200 million Zimbabwe dollars! The whites are long gone, the West is thousands of miles away, THE LAND IS STILL THERE so why are people running away from their country? I suppose people like Subatana and the likes will say that Zimbabweans are fleeing through the crocodile infested Limpopo just to exercise their legs. Zimbabweans are no cowards but what can they do if their gun toting, power hungry leader and his henchmen are killing them. They did it 20 years ago in mandebeleland and like their predecessors got away with it. Like all dictators, they cling to power no matter who dies. African people have great respect and reverence for their dead,and when we hear that people are fleeing and leaving their dead relatives to rot in a mortuary then something is very wrong. The war raging in Zimbabwe is that of one mad man who is so blinded by the want to continue being president that he is oblivious to everything crumbling around him.

Thats great that Zimbabwe is still standing. How i do not know but even so, NO ONE should have to live in those conditions. Why do you say that it is without the white farmer? Again you had to bring it back to race. I know for a fact that there is still white farmers in Zim so again your point has no relevance you just had to have your race remark put in. Also why do you think that we have a a fear of Zimbabwe turning its fortunes around? How thick are you really. The reason we are all commenting on this is that we would all like to see it turn around, its just that we all know it hasn't shown anything in the past 8-10 years to suggest it is turning and it wont under the ruling ZANU-PF. Even someone as blind as you can see that. If you go back to all your comments and re read what you have said you will find that it is you that lives in the past and you are now trying to defend the undefendable by laying the blame onto others. Don't make me and everyone else laugh at your stupid race and blaming of other comments anymore.

if 100 people have died, I think thats pretty serious. But the value of life is obviously alot more important to me than you Kube

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him. He's obviously getting frustrated that there is no basis to his argument, the facts speak for themselves and he's been shown that.

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him. He's obviously getting frustrated that there is no basis to his argument, the facts speak for themselves and he's been shown that.

At one with the Ancestors Of great lands of maZimbabwe A defender of Mother Africa The Warrior that would stands up For the Child of Mother Africa

We honor thee, Cde Robert Mugabe.

Chokora - Yuk ! What garbage. You sound like Kubatana. Mugabe has failed all that you believe in. He has raped and pilaged Zimbabawe. Like a vulture he has feathered his own nest with the lives of Zimbabaweans. As the Lion said to the Hyena - "your day will come !" The sooner the better !

"At one with the Ancestors Of great lands of maZimbabwe A defender of Mother Africa The Warrior that would stands up For the Child of Mother Africa We honor thee, Cde Robert Mugabe".

chokora, we cannot honour Mugabe enough. I concede that it is time for him to move on but neither Tsvangirai nor MDC-T come close as able replacements. As incumbent leader in Ziombabwe, Mugabe has a duty not simply to concdede power when the voters of Zimbabwe deem that his time has come, but he is also duty-bound to ensure a peaceful transition for the peace-loving people of an independent Zimbabwe. In this challenge, Mugabe is best placed and experienced.

Morgan would make a far better president than Bob. He has always had the interests of the people at heart, right from the early days of challenging for more worker rights.

You mean he has the British interests at heart. I doubt you would say this if he continued with land reform. African's need to wake up and see what is really going on. Any black man that will dance when YOU tell him to is YOUR MAN!

I would LOVE for Morgan to continue with land reform. Then he can take it away from Mugabe's cronies, friends and family and give it to people who would actually USE it.

Unlike you Kuba I'm not racist. I don't care who owns the land, I just want to see it used for the best interests of everyone.

mindy, are you really saying that you CARE? Come now, that's the joke of the year - YOU care! Ha hA HA.

Of course I care! If I didn't I would be posting on this board. Shame on you Kuba for failing to recognize that people on here voicing their opinions are only doing it because they have some good reason to feel involved. But then you're very blinkered so it's hardly surprising.

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really.

Kub-06 doesnt even live in zimbabwe commentators he lives in crappy new zealand so ask him why he lives there instead of under mugabe rule. He has absolutely no credibilty what so ever.

LMAO....I see you are still at it Kubatana!!! you stupid stupid man! Get your arse out of that bastion of Western imperialist greed New Zeeland and go home to where the Zimbabweans are supporting themselves so well. Let me see if I understand some of your points here...........

1. You say sanctions are the reason for the downfall of the economy.........If you mistake "stopping free hand-outs" as sanctions, I suppose you would have a point.......probably, because you really are n idiot

2.Cash-crops like cotton and tobacco doesn't feed hungry people..........it does by creating jobs on farms and industry, bringing foreign currency into the country so that you wont need hand-outs from other countries.

3. Rhodies are trying to take the country and farms back..........catch a wake up you ignoranimus, most of the farmers are doing pretty well in Botswana and Mozambique where the governments are giving them farms.

4. People writing comments about Zimbabwe and not Sudan or Kenya are racists...........last time I looked, those were ran by black governments as well

So in conclusion I have found the following.....You are a stupid racist that has given up any right to climb on the bandwagon the minute you emigrated to NZ from where you are now spewing rascist filth onto this forum safe in the knowledge that you are safely "out of range"

Bushdoctor, well said. i hope things will get better in Zim for yourself and all its her people.

Bushie, why so angry? You guys just cant handle the fact that the black man is taking his land back. It's not really about Mugabe or ZANU PF is it? - It's about the black man taking his land back. You now got hatred for any black that supports Mugabe including Mbeke. You guys are truly SICK and will stop at nothing to destroy Zimbabwe if you dont get your way - shame on you. YOU are the one that is infact the racist - always been and will never change. Dont just assume that i imigrated to New Zealand - my Zimbabwean job keeps me here and hopefully when i return vermin like you will be totally eradicated from our great land!

Kub, again your totally blinded to reality. How can you say that it isn't about Mugabe or ZANU PF? Show me something that someone has said that doesn't relate to Mugabe and his piece of sh** party he runs. Again, they are the only reason Zim is in the dire straights it is in now. i have no doubt your answer will be blaming others again so i will forgive you as i can see you are blind. and sorry Kub you have made a stupid comment again. It is scum like you who are ruining Zim. your just afraid they wont let you back in once the government changes for the better. Have you realized yet that you are a laughing stock.

befree, an aussie that is an expert on Zimbabwean afairs. Like i said before you are beyond a joke and arrogant. Who the hell do you think you are telling Zimbabwean's how to handle our own affairs when you treat Aboriginals like second class citizens in their own country. Get a LIFE Skippy.

Why thank you Kub, I wouldn't say an expert though. All i would say is that i am a person that has a conscience, who actually cares for other people who have their rights violated and have a free right to comment. Unlike you who is happy to say everthing is ok when plain and simply "IT IS NOT". There is nothing you can say to hide the truth of what is really happening. Your lies, hypocrisy and racist rants only verify the fact that Mugabe, ZANU PF and all his cronies like you have been the cause of Zims problems. So am pretty sure that your the one that needs to get a life or get a grip on reality. But as you are a coward to admit it, i find that impossible.

befree, you could do some wonderful things in Iraq you know. 100 000 innocent people including women and children have been killed so why not focus on them since you 'CARE' so much. An Aussie that 'cares' so much about black Zimbabwean's??? I think we have seen right through you ages ago.

Kuba, we are talking about Zim here. if you would like to talk about other countries, Go to another site. Dont say yor defending the country because your not. Your just trying to make yourself feel better by saying that someone is in the same or maybe worse state than Zim. Innocent people are dying in Zim because some lunatic isnt happy with the way they voted. Kuba Kuba Kuba, it is sad to see people like you in the world today.

Why are you soooo passionate about Zimbabwe? I have told you many times to deal with the problems in your own country. Zimbabwean's dont get involved in Australian affairs and you should also give us that respect. Sorry but one can only conclude that your interest in Zimbabwe is race related.

LOL.........not angry at all Kuba, just slightly bemused at your expected retoric answer, answer me on what I said in my letter.......(except the part where I called you a stupid idiot, because that was just me stating fact)......try and prove me wrong or defend your own stance, rather than going down your old cop-out of calling everybody that don't agree with you as either racists or sell-outs

Oh, and another thing Kuba.......I won't be eradicated by the time you come back to Zimbabwe.......I'll still be here, your worse nightmare, a fucking boer who just won't go away........

Hey boer do you honestly believe that you are my worst nightmare? You still dont get it do you - Africa does not need you. You damaged every country youv'e been to. Go back to where you came from.There is no place for racists like you. Even a dog is better than you because it has the capacity to learn.

Kubatana, just because Bushdoctor is white it doesn't mean that he is a racist. If you want to see a blinded, brain washed, hard core racist, just look in the mirror.

Dont worry about Kube, he's just trying to make it personal because he has no argument. Quite sad really. I feel sorry for him. He's obviously getting frustrated that there is no basis to his argument, the facts speak for themselves and he's been shown that. His posts are just becomming more and more irrational.

Your job doesn't keep you in New Zealand Kuba, you are choosing to live there! If you really believed the rubbish you write on here you'd find another job in Zim.

You're a complete hypocrite. You never answer any real questions. Instead you spout your racist rubbish propaganda to try and distract everyone from your ignorance.

What a joke! Aren't you tired of being the clown of this board?

mindy you are just a lair! But then again we cant expect any more from your kind, can we?

The black man is taking his land back from the people who paid for it, unfortunately he has trouble attempting to grow anything on it. It's all very well giving away the land which supported your export economy but when you give it away to people to engage in subsistance farming with no comercial farming experience your exports are gone you have a defecit and suprise suprise you have hyper inflation and nothing to offset it against. It's basic economics, when you buy more than you sell you have a spiralling economy. Zimbabwe is now officially classed as a, "failed-state". I havent seen anything which translates to hatred of Zimbabwe from anyone on this site but what I do see from you is hatred of anything which goes against Zimbabwes great, "liberator" and his goons and henchmen. You can sit and pontificate from New Zealand which is a nice liberal democracy with human rights and healthcare and money which you dont need to carry around in a sack to buy a bottle of milk but I was wondering when you'll be heading home to prevent the white man taking over and recolonising? You are one of the most vocal on this site but all you give is regurgitated rhetoric and you do it all the way from the comfort and safety of the southern hemisphere so it sounds a little weak. I'm sure if your post was from a white person using the words, "vermin" and "eradicated" you would be all over it like a rash screaming about racism and hatespeak. I'm afraid to all intents and purposes you are the very definition of a hypocrit.

As much as you would like to think you bothered me enough to flag your post I didn't. I would have actually replied to it.

Hey Kuba, I pointed out before that many white farmers paid the black Zim government for land AFTER independence and had it taken from them in the land "reforms". And you failed to answer that point. Why? Because you can never answer the questions. You just write your meaningless racist diatribe from the comfort of a western society thousands of miles from Zimbabwe.

Glyph is right, you're a total hypocrite. That's been pointed out more than a few times by various people who see through you.

My last post was flaged because certain people didn't like me saying that -' The white man did not buy the land,he stole it!' This happened not too long ago (120 years ago). So to say that the Shona tribe or Matebele took the land from the San/Bushmen is just another excuse because that happened many 100's of years ago.

Kubatana. If we are going to split hairs, we should go back in history and discover who really has claim to Zimbabwe! The black man originally came from the Northern parts of Africa. It is customary in Shona tradition to bury their dead in a sleeping position facing North (from whence their ancestors came)The only people who have claim are possibly the Bushmen, you know those little nomadic people who were hunted to almost extincion. The Bushman's problem was that he could'nt breed as fast as your ancestors did. Thats the problem today, you people breed faster than the average rabbit, sit under a tree drinking beer with your mates and let the women do all the work. The problem with people like you, is you have a chip on your shoulder. Maybe if you had a chip on both shoulders it would balance you out and make you walk in a straight line and possibly think rationally !

All, have we all seen the pictures of the three year old child that was beaten by ZANU PF thugs? i dont exactly remember where i seen it but if someone else has could you put the link here so Kub can see that "everything is alright in Zim". One child beaten is one too many!

Be Free, one child beaten is not enough for the likes of Kubatana.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2475006299_32aca0f6f1.jpg?v=0

that was the picture of the 3 yr old by the way. do not view it if you are of a sensitive disposition.