Business Day (Johannesburg)
19 Mai 2008
AMID warnings of a looming humanitarian crisis in Gauteng, SA's main economic hub, at least 12 people were killed and hundreds injured in apparent xenophobic attacks that spread to townships and parts of Johannesburg at the weekend.
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Please stop calling it racist, racism, xenophobia or xenophobic, it's genecide. Get a dictionary and look up the differences, you are supposed to be educated media, we don't see it.
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Hi, what I would like to say is illegal immigrants should go back to their countries and obtain passports to stay in South Africa. I have no problem with immigrants who have all the needed documents as they are very decent and peaciful citizens. I wish these peoiple who are in this job should get rid of all the Nigerians who turned Jo'burg into a drug den and a prostitute place. our sisters have turned prostitues for the Nigerians and the Metro Police are making a living out of Nigerian bribes. These illegal immigrants are the one who are doing crimes and cannot be traced as our Home Affairs have got no way of controlling the influx of these criminals. Yes, our leaders have been in exile in their country but not the whole of South Africa has gone to exile in one country that is unacceptable. South African laws are so linient to these criminals as they get deported only to come back next week. They don't do that to Botswana as they know they will be hanged. With the renaming of all names for places Hillbrow should be called "Junior Lagos" as there are more Nigerians than South Africans. Illegal immigrants should get the hell out of this country period. We are tired of the border patroll police as they are also making a living out of bribes they get from foreigners, most of the stolen vehicles are found in Lesotho, Swaziland, Mozambique and Zimbabwe. We need finger prints of all the citizens of this country as well as those of foreigners living in SA. They say they are going to pay revenge on whjo's country? They fail to pay revenge on Mugabe for putting them in this state of turmoil. Why fight for something that does not belong to you? We are proudly South Africans and they should be proud of where they come from and go back to sort out their problems. I feel bad for my fellow colleagues who are terrified because they are foreigners. They are good people who are working hard to earn a decent living without doing crime. We fought apartheid and won and we will win again the battle against crime in SA. We don't need illegal immigrants in SA period!!!
i think this writer is xenophobic. sincerely speaking, south africans are the bulk criminals in SA YOU CAN CONFIRM FROM PRISONS.
REASONS: THEY DON'T VALUE EDUCATION, THEY ENJOY SEX,DRINK,SMOKE AT THE EXPENSE OF EDUCATION.
THEY ARE SCHOLL DROP-OUT, SO THE ONLY WAY TO CONSOLE THEMSELVES IS TO ENVY FOREIGNERS.
MOST OF THEM THAT LIVE IN SLUMS,SHACKS AND EVEN IN TOWNSHIP DO NOT PAY RENT, AND THAT IS WHY THEY DON'T VALUE THE WHATEVER SERVICES THE GOVT IS PROVIDING FOR THEM.
CAN YOU IMAGING THAT SOME UNIVERSITY GRADUATE FROM NIGERIA AND OTHER WEST AFRICAN NATIONALS HAWK ON THE STREETS, OPERATE TUCKSHOP JUST TO EKE OUT LIVING FOR THEMSELVES. OTHER PEOPLE FROM SOOTHERN AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAWK/SELL/HAIRDRESSING ON THE STREET JUST TO MAKE A LIVING.
BUT SOUTH AFRICAN WOMEN WASTE THEIR TIME IN BEER PARLOURS/TAVERN/CLUBS.
WHILE THEIR MALES SNIFF GUM ON THE STREET AND GATHER TO DRINK UMQUMBOTI IN LOCATIONS AND TOWNSHIP.
AN AVERAGE SOUTH AFRICAN IS NOT WILLING TO LOOK FOR EMPLYMENT SINCE HE/SHE DOES NOT PAY HOUSE RENT/TAX ETC.
THEIR WOMEN ARE COMFORTABLE WITH MONTHLY CHILD SUPPORT/GRANT.
BUT MOST SOUTH AFRICANS LIVING IN CITIES AND CLEAN NEIGBHOURHOODS ARE HARDWORKING AND DILIGENT. THESE SETS OF CITIZENS ARE NOT ENVIOUS OF FOREIGNERS SINCE THEY ARE EMPLOYED AND DO NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR BICKERING.
THE GOVT OF SOUTH AFRICA SHOULD NOT BE BLAMED FOR ANY CRIME,XENOPHOBIA AND VIOLENCE. THE GOVT HAS DONE ENOUGH TO HER HER PEOPLE,FREE RDP HOUSING,FREE MEDICAL CARE,FREE POTABLE WATER TO THOSE CITIZENS LIVING IN TOWNSHIPS, E.G SOWETO AND THE REST.
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA. LONG LIVE THE GOVT OF SOUTH AFRICA.
THE BIBLE SAYS '' NO FOOD FOR A LAZY MAN''
LAZY AND INDOLENT SOUTH AFRICANS SHOULD PUT THEIR MINDS TO WORK. THEY SHOULD STOP ENVYING FOREIGN NATIONALS WHO ARE EMPLOYED AND LAW ABIDING.
CRIME IS COMMITTED BY EVERY NATIONALS, BUT SOUTH AFRICANS HAVE THE BULK OF CRIMINAL..AN IDLE MIND IS A DEVIL'S WORKSHOP.
THANKS YOU.
I do not condone illegal immigration, nor do I accept the illegal activities that accompany it, but what happened in South Africa is a blatant disregard of the laws of the land.
I believe Zimbabweans need to set themselves straight. Last week over 60 zimbabwean prostitutes were deported from zambia, these women claimed to have infected Zambian men with HIV, and were very proud of the havoc they were causing. You cannot have 3 million people migrating for economic reasons which can, if people loved their country enough could be addressed as other countries in the region have done. South Africa has it's own problems and if you take 3 million people from across the border who cannot sort out their own problems at home, there is bound to be a crisis. Let them go back and sort out their problems at home. They are causing a lot of misery to neighbouring countries with their criminal activities. These are refugees of pleasure. They seek too much luxury. By running away they have destroyed a beautiful country, they are criminals and cowards. If there is to be blood shed, shed it at home at least it would be for an honourable cuase, rather than be hounded like animals in a foreign land.
A reply to Malcom. Your crimes were already in existance before the Nigerians arrived. Thy came and saw what your brothers are doing and they decided to join in but because they are smater and now make a more meaninful income, other SA criminals are mad at them and are trying to get back in control of criminal activities that goes on there. Are you saying that when all illegal Nigerians leave your country there will be nomore crimes? no more prostitution?, no more bribery? heck no! all these have been in existance before Nigerians legal or otherwise, arrived and you'll be shocked that it will multiply to higher levels when they leave. It take two to tango you know, if the Nigerians are offering bribes to your Immigration police and they are receiving it, they too are corrupt, why dont they simply arrest who ever is bribing them? if your girls are now prostitutes and you balme Nigerians that is really a very lame excuse, your government has failed to provide you all with decent jobs and the girls are making a living the way they could. Stop blaming your problems on others, even killing others for your problems is the meanest thing a man can do, find a better solution, since SA's are so upright, why dont you try other non-violent means of problem solving.
Hello, You sound educated but I must say your sudden display of irrational points rankled my brain. It is very obvious that you are a proponent of these violent acts carried out by you non-educated and gullible citizens(ZULUS) and instigated the misguided ideologies of individuals like you. 1). You claim Nigerians have turned your country into a drug haven(and still your shambolic police who are meant to do something about it are also involed in facilitating such illegalities). 2). You claim your women have been turned into prostitutes but you seem to turn your face away from the fact that your women and men have an history of low moral standards regarding sex(your HIV prevalence rate grounds that fact, not forgeting the past activities of your new ANC leader)
You need to get your facts right and let you violent,indisciplined , drug indulging, uneducated and indolent men get their hearts right and tow the the right path. I must say it's very obvious that you are heading for destruction. Jide PS: Your govt. is holding the 2010 world cup and you fools seem intolerant to accepting visitors. Every great city in the world is cosmopolitan(have you forgotten) Nelson Mandela needs to take you guys back to class
The history of South Africa is full of accounts of how foreigners came to the mines of Johannesburg to work in the mines.
During the apartheid era Africans in all continents participated in boycotts, seminars, demonstrations in support of their brothers and sisters who were oppressed by the people of european descent.
There is a brain drain in many countries of Southern Africa. It is a fact that South Africa is among the countries who benefit from the loss of these countries.
Surely, it is evident that South Africa was built with the help of foreigners from all continents. Why are black foreigners no longer an asset? Is South Africa today able to develope without the assistance of black foreigners. I think not.
To South Africans I can only ask, What kind of rainbow nation are you? You single out your black brothers; kill and maim them for trying to make a living. Yet you are failing to take control of the your economy which is still in the hands of others. Read your history and the economic history of Africa and you will realise that you are biting the hand that feeds you.
We all depend on each other and we all have similar problems in our quest to achieve economic independance. Africa Unite.
South African youth are stepping out into wrong direction, possible bad generation backing into an apartheids era. Killing another man just because he is living a good life in your neighborhood does not make you a better person. It will make you mad with quilt for the rest of your life, stuck in personal misery. Follow Nelson Mandela and you will earn respect as noble African Man.
Behavior reflects character. Until people take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming apartheid, they will forever be "stepping out into wrong direction".
Yes we know yes we know but South Africans need to reconsider. I shed some bit of tears as I saw children with their dusty faces, looking hungry, and tears on their chicks terrified by the situations. Ohhh no, I understand the South Africans’ main concern but they should understand the main route of the REFUGEE circumstances. If it is about the jealousness of moneymaking Nigerians, I do understand of some illegalities, how about their tribal cousin Zimbabweans who have nowhere to run.
Zimbabweans are like Zebras in a jungle. If they go on the land, the lions are waiting for the fist, while if they think of marine style; the crocodile is waiting with its big jaws. Zimbabweans are running away from Thabo Mbeki’s personal friend Mugabe who is killing his people for not supporting him. Zimbabweans then think South Africa is the best place since the people of the land happen to be tribal cousins and better neighbors in economic infrastructure. I used to read about South Africans living in Zimbabwe during apartheid. South Africans seek refuge in Zimbabwe during their troubled time. After the war, South Africans continued to seek good and cheaper education in Zimbabwe. What I fail to understand is the reason why they cannot reciprocate.
Response to Mal. It is quiet unfortunite the news of all that is happening in South Africa. Where in this world have you seen or heared of a great nation which grow as an Island, think about it. Well may be a jealousy of what Nigerians have become in South Africa. I will like to trigger your memory here about efforts of African leaders to relieve you of appartheid and get Nelson Mandela out of prison, you have fogotten the history. When I grow to know about South Africa, I think crime and violence of all sorts with omni-facets nature.
Be frank here, your crime has been there and this is epic of South Africa going down and falling free as a nation. You reference Nigerians and how has Zimbabweans come to fore and other african brothers who gave you shelter and hopes in appartheid era.
Well my words read, wait to see how this last for South Africans.
Proud South Africans.In comparison with Zimbabwe, I morethan agree that the performance of their economy is many times as high as the inflation figure of zimbabwe itself, if not even much higher. They are proud of their country even if they have little to proudly pin point as the achievement of BLACK South Africa. Apatheid achievements are what the black south africans are proud of. All that the Black man has done in south africa is to lower the standards that were set by the boers. South African are the worst black people because they dont have anything of their own. They are the most pathetic black people. They can not open up their eyes. they are still living under repression. Only what they have is political independence and everything else still belongs to the whites. They are jealousy of squatters who joined them in staying under refugee camp like conditions. In those shacks, which have become the permanent signature of black south africa, they butcher defenseless foreigners. the foreigners are only there in south africa because the economy is performing better than in zimbabwe-at this point in time. Those zimbabweans only want the rand, otherwise their families back home have proper houses and with the money that is sent home their families live much much better than south africans who still stay in Ghetos so many years after independence. The only picture of south africa that has been portrayed to the world is that of a beautiful country but let me confess that south africans, ok most of them, still stay in those squatter camps, in shacks and the situation has never been better than during apatheid. Crime has been the issue in South Africa for many decades. Those who read "Cry the Beloved Country" will know what i am talking about. During the 40s there were no Zimbabweans or Nigerians in south africa. Zimbabweans only marked their presence in that country in 2002. With the breed of leadership in the ANC there is no way that south africans are going to get any better than they were during the apatheid era in terms of social services and standards of living. With the inflation also starting picking up (blamed on Zimbabweans, of course) we only wait to see where south africa will be in a few years to come. Let me tell you a prophecy: Soon Zimbabweans are going back home where, like in a story with a happy ending, they shall live hapily ever after. But south africa, you proud south africans, are destined for doom.
this is not a matter of pride.xenophobic attacks are racist.we are proud to be zimbaz.earning a living,acquiring education in a foreign country does not make us animals.
If only South African Youths can think twice on the negative effect of their wicked action against foreigners don't think they can involve them on this at all 'it takes a second to destroy a structure which was built in 50 years. Is very inhuman is this how you are going to treat foreigners who will be visiting this country for 2010 world cup? Your fellow African brother and sisters? What makes us different from one another? Shame to see Black South Africans burning and killing other Africans in their country. But this behavior is much uncivilized. If you think the Zimbabweans are your problems speak directly to their government, for they are their reason of migrating into your country every second if. Remember there use to be a time you were like them, also remember 'a single tree can never make a forest, you benefit from them in one or other as well.
Crime and prostitution has been in South African before the "Foreigners" we all know that. Migrants have been African phenomena for centuries, but none is mayhem has been seen before... It’s just shameful. Have a change of mind.
Bafowethu,
I would like to plead with you all i think these xenophobic attacks can only be stopped if the South African Government sets out policies that protect immigrants. I believe that despite that immigrants have a status or not they have to feel safe in the space in which they are. Try to put your self in thier shoes, most of them have a reason why they are here, the most obvious being that they trying to fend for their families. The best we can do is to pick up the phone call our members of parliament, write to them or rally and protest. We should advocate for our fellow brothers rather than to devalue, incriminate and discrminate them.Always remember that "uphila kayi one", so give these brothers a chance to improve their lives!! Lets all create safe miliues within in our communities and stop instiling violence and fear on immigrants!!
I think its a complete shame to see Black South Africans burning and killing other Africans in their country. I don't know why these south Africans have been all this time, but this behaviour is very unafrican. All Africans know that guest must be treated with utmost respect. Crime and prostitution has been in SA before the "Foreigners" we all know that. Migrants have been been an African phenomena for centuries, but none is mayhem has been seen before.. Its just shameful.. I am so ashamed...
If the Africans treat other Africans as illegal immigrats, how do Africans treat Europeans, Asians, Arabs and Jews, who lived in African territories for ONLY 300 years? It's odd to think, while Africans are NOT well come to South Africa, Europeans & Asians can live accepted with no questions asked? Wierd?
Regardless of how you rationalize it, those responsible for the lawless, hateful, brutal and barbaric behaviours towards others in South Africa, only make a mockery of their independence and justify Apartheid.
It is with great sadness in my heart that the xenophobic wake has displaced so many of our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and all those little innocent dark brown and chocolate angels that had to be displaced because of their nationalities. Mother Africa has always had a big womb to accommodate all of us. What a shameful way of venting frustration if it is, of expressing anger if it is. Fear comes from an inferiority complex. Why can't we as South Africans accommodate our African families as they did when we were undergoing our own apartheid struggless? Our government is mostly composed by those who were protected, fed and educated in exile, by the very brethren we are today killing and chasing away. Those of us South Africans who do not believe in these grieveous acts of hatred should unite and clamp out these barbaric occurances.
United we stand! Divided we will perish. I humbly express my apology and extend my condolences to all the bereaved, displaced, physically, emotionally and spiritually aching families.
To ALL my brethren, from thr Book of Mormon: !Nephi. Chapter 22:1 "Wherefore, he will bring them again out of captivity, and they shall be gathered together to the lands of their inheritance: and they shall be brought out of obscurity and out of darkeness, and they shall know that the Lord is their Savior and their Redeeme, the Mighty One of Israel."
GOD BE WITH ALL YOUR DEPARTED FAMILIES, MAY HE COMFORT YOU IN THE WAY THE WORLD MY NOT BE ABLE TO, ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE. NO MATTER HOW BLEAK THE MOMENT MAY BE OR SEEM, GOD LOVES US ALL. IT IS MY PRAYER AND EXPRESSION OF MY LOVE FOR YOU. -
At the level of respect all people are equal. africa-dreams.com
When we as people of the World realize that, irrespective of who we become, where we are born and what our beliefs are, we are all humans. We all feel pain, we all bleed and - unlike animals - we all have the ability to make choices.
These choices are simple. Those who are angry with their situations should dedicate their energies to ensuring social changing. The current wanton destruction and senseless murder will only contribute to the loss of jobs, opportunity and has already turned normal South Africans into criminals.
There is a very big chance that the World Cup soccer championship will be moved, unless this display of stupid choices is stopped. This behaviour against other humans is totally unacceptable.
South Africans should be living their principles of Ubuntu - "Humanness." They expect it and they demand it - now is the time to give it.
There is only one race - and that is the human race. Let all people live in peace and let all people experience safety and compassion.
ANY group of people who for whatever reason think they have an entitlement over other people is RACIST, and Evolutionist as well.