President Thabo Mbeki is the biggest source of the problem in Zimbabwe. I do not understand why he still wants to play a good guy to Mugabe and ZANU (PF)? Mbeki is ruining his own future and creditability. Mbeki should know and understand that Mugabe is now beyond redemption. The actions Mugabe took to ensure his reelection on 27 June 2008 are unprecedented. Mugabe made it clear that he would have to win and was going to win any how. During the weekend days of 21 and 22 June 2008, Harare residents were driven to bases close to their places of residence and told by ZANU (PF) officials that if they vote for Tsvangirai as they had done on 29 March 2008 there were two serious events that were going to unfold after the election:

1) Tsvangirai would not be allowed to be the new president even if he wins 2) If the Harare residents vote overwhelmingly for Tsvangirai like they did on 29 March 2008, ZANU (PF) would ruthlessly punish them by beating many of them and killing some of them.

After this event, many Harare residents feel the election is not necessary. Harare residents feel that if they could be threatened in that manner would their rural counterparts who supported the MDC on 29 March 2008 be able to withstand that kind of pressure to vote for Tsvangirai again? Hordes of ZANU (PF) supporters wearing party t-shirts were all over Harare threatening the residents. MDC activists were no where to be seen reduced to ordinary residents by the sheer quantum and aggresiveness of the ZANU (PF) activists and this was in Harare the supposed to be MDC stronghold.

To Thabo Mbeki, I advise him to take the advice of other SADC leaders. He should not help Mugabe and ZANU (PF) to take hostage of Zimbabwe through a useless policy of quiet diplomacy.

my problem with the finger pointing at Thabo Mbeki is the reason and this reason only that makes me become very sceptical of SADC. thabo Mbeki was not at no given point acting as a one man show, but was acting on mandate from the SADC itself, so who are we really pointing fingers at?

the SADC from the on-set knew what they were dealing with, why did they fail to see the blatantly obvious outcome of this mediation and therefore make provision for its outcome?

my take on this is that, the SADC is full of Mugabe's only he is bold enough to show his colours, while the rest are hiding behind protocol as to why they can not intervene.

Zimbabwe is where it is because people are dragging their feet to act even where the flags are up!

SADC my friend, SADC my enemy.My beginning, my ending... until when will we have to remain the Dark Continent and have to rely on others to act for us. Its time for people to act and take initiative...

I find former Zimbabwe cricket captain, Andy Flower's statement that South Africa's response to Zimbabwe has been "pathetically weak". I would add, too, that so has SADC's response. As for their credibility, well, I think it has been shot about eight years ago when Zimbabwe was already making a masquerade of electioneering, which was obvious to everyone, except African "leaders" !

I find former Zimbabwe cricket captain, Andy Flower's statement that South Africa's response to Zimbabwe has been "pathetically weak", most apt. I would add, too, that so has SADC's response. As for their credibility, well, I think it has been shot about eight years ago when Zimbabwe was already making a masquerade of electioneering, which was obvious to everyone, except African "leaders" !

Antos, quoting Andy Flowers, the former Zimbabwean Cricket Captain, bring interesting memories about his racial views. Many good people in Zimbabwe, for your information consider Andy as a racist, who would rather boycott a white/black team, than play in one. Andy Flower worked against intergration of Cricket in Zimbabwe and he left a lot of sour grapes. He also reminds me of white anglo minority farmers in Zimbabwe who resisted "land Reform" and thought blacks were rotten. Most of them were eventually pushed aside and some are now caught in "homelessness" and destitute.

Andy Flowers, a typical white racists Rhodes, has no place in Zimbabwe now or in the near future. This is slowly beginning to tell me about your version of Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe may have problems, but oboy....boy...we do not need white anglo Rhodesian racists..They are partly to blame for Robert Mugabe's ever ending excuses....Get them out of these debates...

Yes such a racist that he wants things done to help black Zimbabweans or why would he even comment! Lets see what happens on in 2 days at the ICC meeting, if they do not kick Zimbabwe out of the international competition the players of the world will!