A number of African leaders who had talks with the leaders of the G8 group of industrialized nations on Monday disagreed with the West's drive at the United Nations for sanctions against Zimbabwe.
I recently wrote that this was an issue that Africans needed to solve. As much as I respect the leader from Botswana and some other leaders, I see we are dealing with silly politics that has no solution. Diplomacy is never going to deal with dictators, their military leaders, the heads of the police or the cronies of Mugabe. There will never be power sharing that amounts to anything. The people of Zimbabwe will continue to suffer and the leaders of Africa will wring their hands or turn a blind eye. Bring on the sanctiions. The people are desperate and the African leaders are ineffective. Power to the people, not the greedy, corrupt leaders that care only for themselves. May God rebuke those evil men and bless the downtrodden. Doesn't anyone really care about what is happening?
Laure...I hope you can also accept and agree to disagree with African leaders. Africa heads of state have chosen to disagree with the western powers. And it is fine to disagree with them, however, it is not right to to be abusive just because somebody disagree with you. The Western World is not "God" and as we saw in Iraq, the west (UK and USA) can be as wrong as anybody in the World. Especially under that low "IQ" Bush.
Africa heads of state represents it's population (One Billion people) must be respected for their decisions. Imperial British Colonial dictatorship would have sent an army to murder everybody who disagreed with her.
African heads of state also agreed that the election was not free or fair and that a GNU must be formed, but do you think Mugabe will let the MDC anywhere near power?
The African Union is based on 54 independent countries and not a “United States of Africa” as such negotiations and discussions are always necessary. African leaders have not failed Zimbabwe, nor have their positions been weakened. Forcing your way by military force in Zimbabwe may actually delay the demise of Robert Mugabe. The invasion of the USA/UK into Iraq has delayed democracy in that country for another 100 years. There is a lot of cheap talk about using force in Zimbabwe, without the critical analysis of the consequences. The history of Africa shows that countries that have gone thru the same things Zimbabwe is going thru, (Nigeria, Ghana, Liberia, Mozambique, Uganda, Kenya, Rwanda) have pulled themselves out of the problem, without help from the western world. Anglos talk a great deal about force, but there is very little evidence of it working anyway in Africa, or where the UK was involved in and there was success! So why the big talk?
It is so sad you are still riding on that wagon of blindness trumpeting such comfused recitation. Were you around when Zimbabweans were feeding themselves pre and early Mugabe leadership. Zimbabweans are starving as a result of your father Mugabe and you should be ashamed of this. African leaders have morgaged their integrity by being mute about this. How can these leaders sit with Mugabe and discuss poverty eradication when Mugabe has made millions of Africans hungry and refugees. Most leaders in Africa and you don't worth the salt you eat. Sanctions against Mugabe and his bunch of Animals should be put in place and any of them who leave that country should be arrested and charged for crimes against humanity. May the good lord forgive your soul, you IDIOT.
Tommyhamwa, you are actually the ultimate anglo idiot! who thinks that people should only follow your way of thinking. You think your words are finally. But that's the "bastard" we see in white anglos, whose thoughts on Africa and Zimbabwe are way out of line with current thinking.
Your urgency about Zimbabwe is hyperbolic and your ratting just do not reflect reality at all!! People must discuss issues. African leaders do disagree and that is absolutely fine! Africans do not live to validate anglo views. We have our own views. If somebody disagrees with you, you view him as pro-mugabe. That kind of thinking is actually rotten and colonial and reflects white supremacy views.
Most white anglos are not even wanted nowadays on African issues. You do not realize just how far away you are now. What problems has the anglos or EU solved in Africa? Rwanda, DRC,Kenya, Nigeria, Sudan? What the hell are you talking about!
The anglos also have their own problems with the EU. UK is not necessary beloved by fellow europeans. African leaders have not failed...there are differences of opinions, that bastards like you should respect!!!
What kind of a lamemass, evil, disrespectful of Africans comment is this nuts writing. It's a shame that in this age and time, idiots like him rule Africa. The issue of Zimbabwe today is not about Africa standing up against the West forced imposition of its ways on the Africa. It's the issue evil, African killers Mugabe who should have been sentenced to death several years ago manipulating the so called leaders of Africa, who themselves much innocent blood on their hands, who will do anything to hold on to their ill-gotten power no matter how many precious African lives are lost for one reason: it enables them to enjoy the role of God over unfortunate Africans. Evil must be stopped now and forever and those who plays God over people should be killed at all cost because the essence of human beings can only be maintained when we, every individuals on the face of the earth, can exercise the freedom that all knowing God gave us and never intervene us in exercising it. Let no evil dictators play God's role over nobody and let old dying men like Mugube and his associate evil dictators in much of Africa, Asia and Latin America and the rest of the world have no say over the future of any nation, any group or any individuals.
Brother of Africans, KB
You are clearly a white Afrikaner who thinks that your views alone are supreme in Southern Africa. Your hyperbolic and racists comments will not solve Zimbabwe's problems.
Zimbabwe, for your information is not the only African country that has gone thru the problems they are going thru. Nigerai, Ghana have all gone thru the same things and came out much better.
You are still ignorant because you think Africa is one country, one mind, one solution! That is absolutely rubbish!!!!
If you think Africa is rubbish! You are free to go to Europe, where some of the white Africans are cleaning toilets and becoming drunkards everyday.
By the way, we need to gather your white aparthied dictotors and put them to death...you fuckin fool!
Although I am not a fan of Mugabe I sympathize with most of the comments by issinstitute. White supremacy is still alive and well. In the West thoughs of Afrikan origin are over-represented in practically every negative statistic e.g in prison, poverty, unemployment, victims of crime and Under- represented in professional jobs, political parties, senior management positions, wealth etc. In Africa e.g South Africa, Kenya, Zimbabwe the white minority still have control of the economy and own the best land etc. in South Africa the 70% black population own around 10% of the business economy. This pattern is repeated all over the world take for example the West Indies where black people now have political power but still most of the businesses are owned by whites. Now as we speak the EU is negotiating agreements with Afrikan countries that would further open up Afrikan markets for exploitation and threatening to reduce aid if countries don't sign up. Not to mention the failure of the West to meet it's promise made by the G8 in 2005 of doubling aid to Afrika by 2010 and the failure to return monies looted by corrupt Afrikan leaders still held in European bank accounts. All of this suggests to me the West is seeking it's own interests not the interests of Afrika. What Mugabe has done by returning land stolen by the British (Although the process was wrong), back to black Afrikan's is an affront to white supremacy. Also many of the law lords in the UK still have considerable interest in Zimbabwe as well as in Kenya etc. hence the media obsession with Zimbabwe
The AU and Afrika should continue to reject outside interference and deal with Zimbabwe as well as the many more serious issues the continent faces
Hello! When will wake up to the fact that White men did not tel Mugabwe to refuse to beahve as a non crimninal. PLeae, the matter is simple:Tere was an election in Zimbagwe, Mugabwe lost and refused to leave. Any White in this story? Are you sick?
Gradehelp what ever that makes U, if U were a president of a country and the people that colonised yo country fund an opposition party in yo country what would U do? MDC was formed by the CIA, MI 5 or 6 whatever they be together with trade unions in Zimbabwe. This is tantamount to a coup.
xa...and you know all of this because../??? tell us please. If the CIA wanted to take mugabe out believe me they would do it in an hour! dont bore us with your flights of fantasy on here..go write a book or something and try to get it published under fiction. The CIA took out that terrorist who thought he was safe in Somalia..they used an unmanned plane loaded with ordinance of the latest design and blasted him to hell in a second..if they wanted to hit mugabe it would be as easy as pie...take it from me. He is a sitting duck! come up with something more credible before switching on your pc and logging on here please. WEa re tired of hearing of these baseless conspiracy theories that elevate mugabe to some important level when all he would be useful for is cleaning toilets in the west!!!!
He's already elevated fah, he retook stolen land and returned it to his people (300,000 cronies). That makes him an eternal African hero. Maybe the reason that the western intelligence agents don't "take out" Mr. Mugabe, a popular African president, not a terrorist, is because they don't want to set off a chain of events that could end up with the African masses driving out the remaining whites in southern Africa. I suspect the stepped up demonization of Mr. Mugabe is designed to make him less popular. And don't get impressed with all that western technology, we see how difficult it is to defeat poorly armed people in Iraq and Afghanistan with it. Speaking of toilets, I hear that the Zimbabwean president is looking for a white to integrate the staff that cleans those in his new home. Are you interested? I have some good friends in Zimbabwe who can put in a good word for you.
He's also a genocidal maniac that killed 20,000 of his own people to get power.
I have never met such a well put point, please continue to write more on this subject. The British are the main problem here, while Africans die everyday trying to cross seas for a so-called better life in Europe. No one fails to point out that President Mugabe is not in charge of most of these country’s where people are trying to escape to a better life. Zimbabwe is much better off without western influence and the rest of Africa should think about going the Zimbabwe way, it will be painful in the short term but in the long term the shackles of slavery will be finally broken when Africans start trading amongst each other. Africa must get behind Robert who suffered for African rights and freedoms and not behind Gordon, George or Angela for that matter. WE ARE AFRICANS, and we should not be told who we assosiate with and who we consider our brothers. When the chips were down for South Africans who was there with unconditional support for the ANC, Mugabe, Kaunda, they just condembed it from a far while their sports men visited and they secretly invested in Racist South Africa.
when africans start trading with one another??? what insanity prompted you to write such tripe. How long have the northern african countries been free of colonialism?? Decades!! And who do they choose to trade with?? Not zimbabwe with its worthless currency mate...they prefer the greenback and the £ sterling!!!! And when they get it what do they do with it...why, they bank their "hard stolen" cash in secret "evil western" run banks..ie swiss bank accounts. Go get a brain transplant dude...this topic is way out of your league!
Although I am not a fan of Mugabe I sympathize with most of the comments by issinstitute. White supremacy is still alive and well. In the West thoughs of Afrikan origin are over-represented in practically every negative statistic e.g in prison, poverty, unemployment, victims of crime and Under- represented in professional jobs, political parties, senior management positions, wealth etc. In Africa e.g South Africa, Kenya, Zimbabwe the white minority still have control of the economy and own the best land etc. in South Africa the 70% black population own around 10% of the business economy. This pattern is repeated all over the world take for example the West Indies where black people now have political power but still most of the businesses are owned by whites. Now as we speak the EU is negotiating agreements with Afrikan countries that would further open up Afrikan markets for exploitation and threatening to reduce aid if countries don't sign up. Not to mention the failure of the West to meet it's promise made by the G8 in 2005 of doubling aid to Afrika by 2010 and the failure to return monies looted by corrupt Afrikan leaders still held in European bank accounts. All of this suggests to me the West is seeking it's own interests not the interests of Afrika. What Mugabe has done by returning land stolen by the British (Although the process was wrong), back to black Afrikan's is an affront to white supremacy. Also many of the law lords in the UK still have considerable interest in Zimbabwe as well as in Kenya etc. hence the media obsession with Zimbabwe
The AU and Afrika should continue to reject outside interference and deal with Zimbabwe as well as the many more serious issues the continent faces
i fully concur with you issinstitute.the problem is on the number of those valiant african leaders.i just cant imagine that at this juncture we still have some african leaders who for reason no one can fathom still blindly coincide with the west without reasoning. we know that some like few so called young african leaders are nothing but puppets or white masters kith and kin i.e Tom blair's nephew Ian Khama he has chosen to stand by his uncles Tony and Goldon for the sake of his well schemed plan to preserve his family' s dynasty.his late father was wiser tho.
i agree it is time african leaders take the front line in issues, but who will do this, there is only one man standing in africa who would speak and command respect from all over the world-nelson mandela. why? because u know the answer better than me, imparttial and honest african leader, give me another name, untill we get leaders like this, the west will continue to rule us
The West doesn't rule you. Those days are over and I am so happy for you. Africa must govern itself well and compassionately. Stop blaming the West. It is time to grow up and be what you were meant to be. Throw out the bums and bring in the real leaders. The people must rule, not the greedy crooks.
In Chicago we have a gang problem because no one in our neighborhood will trust police to do the right thing fearing it is just another scheme to keep us down. I know the laws are differentially applied against us, but should we reject the system which is the worst in the world, except for all the others in favor of gang dominated anarchy? This is no different, only on a larger scale.
From Kenya, a formerly de jure and presently de facto colony of UK, we read the following:
""... the US, EU and Tsvangirai strategy of "no compromise" would be the best," said Mr Methuseli Moyo, an analysts writing for a UK based Zimbabwean online publication. "Some ... would not mind even if the (Zimbabwe) economy collapsed totally ..." - The Nation, Nairobi, Kenya, 3 July 2008
We had in USA, treacherous vermin like Tsvangirai who sided with the enemy against our demands for independence from colonial Europeans. And once that independence was achieved, the people put in place comprehensive measures that ensured that the enemy does not regain a foothold. Our patriots did not shed their blood so as to have a few rotten elements undo the fruits of their sacrifices and send us back into bondage. So, what measures do we have in place in USA against sabotage, terrorism and treason? Many.
The people and the governments in USA, the EU and Asian countries know how to deal firmly, viciously and murderously with foreign agents within and without - as well as foreign governments - that are bent on destabilization and those that are threats to their national security interests.
We do not expect the government and the people of maZimbabwe to act any less authoritatively and decisively with regard to the self-declared saboteur Tsvangirai, all the treasonous scum that worship him as well as his imperial foreign masters who raped, enslaved and slaughtered the native ancestors - and have unleash misery on the long-suffering offspring of indomitable hero, the Chief Lobengula.
For the government of Zimbabwe to do any less would be to abrogate its sovereign responsibility and undermine the people's rights to their pursuit of liberty, prosperity and happiness - a pursuit that is clearly being undermined by among others, the UN and some foreigners' client states in Africa like Kenya and Botswana.
We congratulate Cde Mugabe on the enduring confidence in him as expressed by the people in their recent vote of confidence in his leadership and the independence of the people of maZimbabwe.
The problem in Zimbabwe is Zimbabwean in real sense and its only wise for africans to come in as aides.Which means Zimbabwe as an African nation should be able to accept African help and what Thabo Mbeki was doing is the best given that he is the man close to the problem.Yes we understand and fear the might of the US and EU but for them to armtwist African leaders like that it goes on to show that we still have a long journey to go before we are a soverign continent.Remember the U.S has the Zimbabwe Economic Recovery Act which is in place and that alone is biting the zimbabwean economy hard,so for them to force more sanctions to an already crippled country is utter racism dressed in humanitarian garments.And we as Africans should be able to see through these Machinations.The story is about one Brave African leader who addressed a historical wrong so he must be beaten in front of other children(African Leaders)so that they will not follow suit the question here is about restoration of African identity.MUGABE IS A TRUE AFRICAN HERO MORE THAN EVEN 100 MANDELAS COMBINED.ONLY TIME WILL TELL.TO GOD BE THE GLORY
Didnt see Mandela murdering 20,000 of his own people.
Mugabe has no integrity and respects no one as can be seen from this extract from http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/jul8_2008.html
..The JOC's response was as follows: To target and eliminate the MDC from the political map in Zimbabwe. This operation is to begin at cell, ward, District, province and national levels. To target and eliminate selected MDC MP's so that the other MPs are forced into hiding and after 21 days of being absent from parliament by-elections will be held and rigged to regain ZANU PF's majority in parliament. Killing of all critical journalists from both the public and private media to silence all independent voices. Police internal security intelligence (PISI) have all the names of all the MDC activists in the country so targeting them will not be a problem. This is meant to cripple the MDC to eventually force it into a government of national unity where it will be swallowed by ZANU PF and there will be no MDC in the future. This operation is being coordinated now and all logistics are being mobilized. The operation will begin Monday 7th July 2008 by attacking and abducting MDC refugees. The Junta assured Mugabe that no country in the world can invade Zimbabwe as their state of preparedness was second to none in Africa. It is obvious from this information that the Mugabe regime is not sincere about negotiating a peaceful resolution to the Zimbabwe crisis and is determined to continue to wage war against the people of Zimbabwe.
So how is this Zimbabwean crises going to be resolved? I think both the African Union and international community are doing little to resolve it. African leaders are being too protective of Mugabe. African leaders should simply tell Mugabe that his time is up. Mugabe should step down for Tsvangirai who now enjoys popular mandate. The MDC should be allowed to form an inclusive government. That runoff was illegitimate as it contravened the Zimbabwean law. The runoff should have been held on 19 April 2008. ZEC gave itself powers it does not constitutionally have by setting the date three months later. As for the international community, I think EU and the United States are talking too much. It's time for action. They should act now to save people. If they drag, they prolong the suffering of people they want to help. They should do what they feel is best to preserve the rule of law and democracy. They should ignore Mbeki who is acting on behalf of Mugabe and ZANU (PF). Mbeki lacks creditability. Mugabe and ZANU (PF) are actuly performing all these dastardly acts because they are banking on Mbeki's protection. If Mbeki were to pull the plug on Mugabe and ZANU (PF), those guys would give up power in less than one month.
To all those who defend illegitimate President and blodd-stained monster Mugabe in the name of the continued fight against colonialism and the West, may I appeal to you to wake up. Why 5 million Zimbabweans have sought refuge in neighbouring countries? Did you ever have to run away from a blood thirsty monster for the safety of yourself and the members of your family? Have you ever been an unwilling terrorised witness to the rape of your own daughter, sister or wife by bandits employed by these monsters just because you hold political views that are opposed to those of the monster?
Please wake up to make Africa a better place for our children if even we have had to put up with dictators and our own life has suffered, unless you form part of the minority establishment assisting the monster to continue sucking our blood.
The majority aspire for peace, respect, human dignity and tolerance of divergent political opinions. Blood-stained Mugabe will have to be tried by the International Court for Human Rights for genocide. The privileged few, part of the establishment in collusion with the monster, may like it or not, the bandwagon is going to move forward.
Finally some good comment !!! Pls. open your eyes people and face the facts in Zimbabwe: 80%unemployment, 165000% inflation, milions of refugee, milions people without food and all of these thanks to Mugabe who lead one of the richest African country to disaster. Ask Zimbabweans !!! And stop it with your conspiracy theories !!! As somebody pointed if US would want Zimbabwean army doesn´t exist within a few hours !!!
I also think the sanctions wont help much looking at the humanitarian situation in Zimbabwe.Sanctions will make the situation worse than it already is...After all the sanctions will only affect the inocent citizens of Zimbabwe.If the idea is to presurize Bob,then just target Bob...
“It is very easy to pan an entity because the man at the top is an adage I know only too well, but forget to heed at times.” This little ditty is suitably applicable to the case of the Movement for Democratic Change and its president Mr. Morgan Tsvangirai.
A pattern that reared its head leading to the formation of the MDC over a decade ago is again manifesting itself, only this time it is detrimental to not only me but quite a lot of people who took to the street in support of Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU) under the guidance of Mr. Tsvangirai.
Back then, he showed a rebellious streak which may have worked well in the trade union arena in helping workers get their way, but has not borne any fruits in the political arena.
Let's face it, Mr Tsvangirai has lost every election he has contested ― from his own Buhera constituency to the 2005 presidential election. He did lead the latest election, but fell short of winning which is a fact conveniently ignored by the mainly Western and Opposition press.
If its agreed beforehand that you need 51 points to pass a test, but you happen to be the leader with 49 points, the record will still state you failed the test.
Morgan Tsvangirai simply did not get the 50 plus per cent needed to claim victory.
Now my earlier point about the party and the man highlights that the failure of Mr Tsvangirai has come to be regarded as the failure of the MDC-T. Despite the fact that the MDC-T has done brilliantly in parliamentary elections, although its leader has been floundering for a decade.
Every time he falls short, there is an outcry, but the fact here is that Mr. Tsvangirai had a chance to score a decisive victory in the March elections with the nation on its knees, hence many would have been receptive of a chance for change.
He seems to fail to connect to all Zimbabweans because any sign of showing his popularity is not merely winning him likely supporters, but reaching out to those who do not believe him, thus achieving a landslide, rather than scrapping through and complaining everyone wants him when he has not got over 50% mark in his political career.
I believe Mr. Tsvangirai's steadfastness worked wonders with the trade union, but the same approach has not worked in the political arena i.e. he was able to get overwhelming support for his trade union policies but cannot simply sell his ideas to the majority to win political elections.
It is this stubborn streak that has now led him to trade this commodity with the current government, but to the detriment of Zimbabweans. Are these stand offs personal, or for us? I do not believe they are for us because we certainly lose out in this one as Mr. Tsvangirai is now even refusing to heed advice from within his own party.
I have now come to believe that MDC (as a party) is doing just fine convincingly winning parliamentary elections, when it has not even reached adolescence, against a ruling party that is in midlife. While the western and opposition media shout abuse at Mr. Mugabe, they fail to realize Mr. Tsvangirai is losing his ship since a lot of us who wouldn't have questioned his conduct prior to 2005 now start to see how flawed his leadership has become. Perhaps this was always the case but it is only now that his determination to gain power at any costs exposes that.
Lets face it, he supports measures purportedly aimed at Zanu PF but in reality only affect you and I – measures like sanctions only affecting the man on the street whether you like MDC or Zanu PF – while the leadership of both parties have their belies full.
How can a person who proclaims to represent the people try to open up the country to the prospect of military intervention, when fully aware that these missions are always abject failures – especially if led by the USA?
For example more people died in Iraq after Mr. Bush declared the war won. Hence if this is the sign of success that Mr. Tsvangirai craves, I refuse to believe that few Zimbabweans share his dream. I am sure there are people who believe my criticism of Mr. Tsvangirai is in support of Zanu PF when this is not so.
I only believe that if the MDC believes in change, they should also be able to change from within to make the manifesto believable. The MDC is a resounding success, but I cannot say the same of its leadership.
I am pretty sure a change at the top will ultimately lead to a change of perception that MDC is Tsvangirai and Tsvangirai is MDC.
Someone who can carry the party that extra mile is now essential!
What's all this "giants standing up straight so no one can ride their backs?"Oooh, you must be all thinking this a group of great men standing up for the rights of Africa and a free world.Gutless morons who dont give a damn about the sufferings of ordinary folk.Driven by power and greed they seek the support and praise of fools who fear their own freedom and despise all that seek it.And that goes for the G8 too!The World deserves better than this mob of clowns.Stop sanctioning corruption and murder now.
As a Zimbabwean concerned about what is going on in the country, I feel compelled to comment on the leadership of the opposition. I read with shock that Morgan Tsvangi-rai has boycotted talks with President Mugabe. What this showed me was that Tsvangirai does not care about Zimbabwe. He would like to be seen as a man of peace and a man of the people, but all we see of him is his smiling face on foreign television stations. His heart is not in Zimbabwe and he does not care about ordinary people who are suffering from the sanctions that he called for. President Mugabe has been patient and has called for talks with you because he knows that this is good for the nation. Zimbabweans are looking forward to the talks and expect to see an improvement in the situation in the country. The stance which His Excellency President Mugabe has taken is commendable and it will go down in history. We have so much respect for President Mugabe for doing this and we will respect you too Tsvangirai if you do the right thing.
BRITAIN is negotiating on behalf of the Movement for Democratic Change party led by Morgan Tsvangirai in resolving the Zimbabwe crisis, the Zimbabwe Guardian has learnt.
The MDC-T party delegation to the just ended African Union summit in Egypt was ‘heavily’ represented by a delegation which included its vice president Thokozani Khupe, US Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer and British Minister of State in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office Mark Malloch-Brown, according to Justice Minister Patrick Chinamasa.
Chinamasa told the Herald newspaper that Tsvangirai was no longer ‘his own person’ as he had mortgaged the MDC-T party and the resolution of the Zimbabwean crisis to foreigners.
He said if left alone, the ruling Zanu PF party and the opposition MDC-T would resolve their differences speedily.
"Tsvangirai is no longer his own person. He is receiving contradictory instructions from his handlers. Until Tsvangirai makes up his mind and throws the British and Americans from his back, a solution would be difficult," Chinamasa told the daily paper.
"Britain, the US and the EU, in particular, should stop meddling in our affairs. It is very evident that their hand is involved and complicating the smooth dialogue between Zanu-PF and the two MDC formations," he said adding that he was “confident that if we are left to discuss this matter as Zimbabweans, we will find a solution sooner rather than later."
Tsvangirai snubbed a meeting he had called for at the weekend between the MDC and President Mugabe saying he had been advised by Chairperson of the Commission of the African Union, Jean Ping against the idea.
Ironically, the African Union last week approved South African President Thabo Mbeki’s mediation efforts in Zimbabwe as the only way to resolve the political impasse in the country.
Chinamasa said the African Union summit last week had endorsed President Mbeki as the facilitator for dialogue in Zimbabwe adding: "As Zanu-PF, we will respect that resolution. There was consensus at the summit that bringing in additional people would complicate the matter and delay a solution.”
"There was also consensus that should President Mbeki require additional manpower, he would say so,’’ he said.
BRITAIN is negotiating on behalf of the Movement for Democratic Change party led by Morgan Tsvangirai in resolving the Zimbabwe crisis, the Zimbabwe Guardian has learnt.
The MDC-T party delegation to the just ended African Union summit in Egypt was ‘heavily’ represented by a delegation which included its vice president Thokozani Khupe, US Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer and British Minister of State in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office Mark Malloch-Brown, according to Justice Minister Patrick Chinamasa.
Chinamasa told the Herald newspaper that Tsvangirai was no longer ‘his own person’ as he had mortgaged the MDC-T party and the resolution of the Zimbabwean crisis to foreigners.
He said if left alone, the ruling Zanu PF party and the opposition MDC-T would resolve their differences speedily.
"Tsvangirai is no longer his own person. He is receiving contradictory instructions from his handlers. Until Tsvangirai makes up his mind and throws the British and Americans from his back, a solution would be difficult," Chinamasa told the daily paper.
"Britain, the US and the EU, in particular, should stop meddling in our affairs. It is very evident that their hand is involved and complicating the smooth dialogue between Zanu-PF and the two MDC formations," he said adding that he was “confident that if we are left to discuss this matter as Zimbabweans, we will find a solution sooner rather than later."
Tsvangirai snubbed a meeting he had called for at the weekend between the MDC and President Mugabe saying he had been advised by Chairperson of the Commission of the African Union, Jean Ping against the idea.
Ironically, the African Union last week approved South African President Thabo Mbeki’s mediation efforts in Zimbabwe as the only way to resolve the political impasse in the country.
Chinamasa said the African Union summit last week had endorsed President Mbeki as the facilitator for dialogue in Zimbabwe adding: "As Zanu-PF, we will respect that resolution. There was consensus at the summit that bringing in additional people would complicate the matter and delay a solution.”
"There was also consensus that should President Mbeki require additional manpower, he would say so,’’ he said.
The UK/US regime change has failed dismally if its ambition was to remove Mugabe from afro-politic emancipation. We have been bombarded by idiotic ‘international” pressure, political shenanigans, economic coercions and brutal demonisation of the Zimbabwean leader in an attempt to have his ideals and judgment sidelined by a new breed of African politicians inexperienced of liberation political principles. To this day, all attempts by the former tormenters have been failure after failure but they will never grow weary. I believe it must not only be Africans who have come out of a deep slumber from oppression but also that westerners must wake up to realise that their oppressive methodology is no longer applicable. Africans and the third world have let Britain/EU and America carry on with their overt dislike of Mugabe’s liberation ideals for too long, it is important to be confrontational in order to stop more calculated isolation and annihilation of poor nations.
Onesoulzim, are you Zimbabwean and if so, do you live in Zimbabwe ALL the time? If your answer is yes then I think you have a screw missing.
Please impose sanctions as soon as possible. Most African governments would not last a day without the help from the west. Even the most ardent public anti-western rhetoricians are in private dependent on the western largess for their survival: money; arms; intellegence, you name it. The truth of the matter is most people in Africa survive without any help from their corrupt governements so in this case the ordinary Zimbabweans wouldn't be affected that much one way or the other, whether the sanctions are imposed or not. They have already hit rock bottom. These socalled African leaders - there is hardly one worth the title leader - are the ones who would suffer most if sanctions are imposed. They are the ones who need money to run their illegitimate, corrupt and criminal governments of oppression. They are the ones who need arms to intimidate, torture, and kill their political opponents. They are the ones who need expensive goods and services from the international world metropolis. The poor, sick, and poorly educated Africans would never feel any difference on their lives what so ever. It is a fallacy to think that the sanctions would affect the ordinary folks. The regular folks have nothing to loose; the ruling elite have everything to loose - ask the apartheid rulers of South Africa. Bring on the sanctions; the sooner and the faster the better.
African leaders should avoid prolonging the crises. This crises has now spanned close to a decade but they still say they are talking. AU leaders need to deal decisively with Mugabe who actually despises them and thinks they can be manipulated to prolong his stay in power. Mugabe does not love his African peers; he thinks they are weak and useless. Didn't the AU leaders hear Mugabe saying that he will challenge them one by one at the AU summit in Egypt? The AU fathers should be on the side of the suffering Zimbabweans and not side with the bully, Mugabe.The best they can do for Mugabe,is to guarantee his immunity from future prosecution under local, regional and international law provided he retires now. But even chances of this immunity are getting slimmer as Mugabe has vowed to himself to violate every law in the rule book.
If sanctions are to be imposed on Zimbabwe by the G-8 leaders, who actually is going to suffer. It will be the already suffering people who are at the lowest point in their history. Will sanctions actually effect any change at the government level? African leaders need to take charge and step up to the plate for what is right in Zimbabwe. Mbeki can not remain as the chief negotiator. for months now he has done nothing. The UN Security Council needs to immediately appoint a high level Mediator or team of mediators to restore order to a government for the people of Zimbabwe where there is now no law and no where for the people to turn for help. It is shameful that the world is standing around talking and doing nothing while one of the most magnificent countries in Africa continues in a downward spiral. Where is morality and conscience ? Being passive makes us all as evil as those perpetrating crimes against humanity.
If sanctions are to be imposed on Zimbabwe by the G-8 leaders, who actually is going to suffer. It will be the already suffering people who are at the lowest point in their history. Will sanctions actually effect any change at the government level? African leaders need to take charge and step up to the plate for what is right in Zimbabwe. Mbeki can not remain as the chief negotiator. for months now he has done nothing. The UN Security Council needs to immediately appoint a high level Mediator or team of mediators to restore order to a government for the people of Zimbabwe where there is now no law and no where for the people to turn for help. It is shameful that the world is standing around talking and doing nothing while one of the most magnificent countries in Africa continues in a downward spiral. Where is morality and conscience ? Being passive makes us all as evil as those perpetrating crimes against humanity.
If sanctions are to be imposed on Zimbabwe by the G-8 leaders, who actually is going to suffer. It will be the already suffering people who are at the lowest point in their history. Will sanctions actually effect any change at the government level? African leaders need to take charge and step up to the plate for what is right in Zimbabwe. Mbeki can not remain as the chief negotiator. for months now he has done nothing. The UN Security Council needs to immediately appoint a high level Mediator or team of mediators to restore order to a government for the people of Zimbabwe where there is now no law and no where for the people to turn for help. It is shameful that the world is standing around talking and doing nothing while one of the most magnificent countries in Africa continues in a downward spiral. Where is morality and conscience ? Being passive makes us all as evil as those perpetrating crimes against humanity.
I agree, i would like to see people like mugabe and his regime dealt with swiftly and finally and you would see majhor change in Africa for the better. People like mugabe and regime are holding the people of Africa back from developing into a great place that can stand toe to toe with anyone in the world.
The West, I would not be surprised if before long one or more of Mugabe's brainwashed twits has something negative in response to your positive views on Zimbabwe. They are just something else.
Some of you guys really should stop obsessing about things you can do nothing about - it's not mentally healthy. His Excellency Comrade President Robert Mugabe won the presidential elections. Whether anyone likes it or not, he is president of Zimbabwe and Zanu-PF are the ruling party. Get over it, already.
You've had more than two weeks to grieve. For your own sakes, get on with your lives.
Yes Selector, we know that Mugabe and his ZANU-PF thugs have beat the crap out of people to stay in power. I would not gloat if I were you, because those of us who do not live in your country think you are all dumb for supporting a guy that beats the crap out of his own people to force them to like him. How insecure is that? Just pathetic.
Hello Zimbabwe! We here in America do not agree with our (DUCK)cowboy president on the sanction issure.Also,we think Angel Merkel need to keep quiet on this matter.She need to reread the British Mandate on Palestine and give Isreal A country near her.(Just think),6,000,000 people.Seem like Isreal need to drop something some place and not the West bank,(if they got it).Bush said Pay back is O.K. May God Bless (the so call)Africa.Let us all keep praying that Jesus Christ,Allah, will help us if we ask.We do not want to add that nice lady to that DEMON QUARTET.CHANEY,BUSH,BLAIR AND BROWN.
God bless America, U.S.A. Oweij Liebo
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