A song in your life.

The shining light of a twisted road gives an attention to that fine blackbird, living this present and the beautiful vision of a luminous love: a song in your life, a delicate sadness in a vigorous care.

Francesco Sinibaldi

Blessed is the peace maker for he shall be called the son of God. Without any doubt, THABO MBEKI, is one of the illustrious sons of Africa that all black Africans are and should always be greatful to for his efforts to always contribute to peace in the continent. It is without doubt that the hardship that the zimbabweans face is due 99.9% due to the sactions organized by the US and imposed by most of the western countries in an effort to progressively destroy the country mainly to gain the control of the natural resources. With African leaders like Thabo Mbeki as well as the Angolan President that has always been appealing to the western countries to drop the unnecessary sanctions on Zimbabwe, it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel especially as negotiated settlement of the crisis looks possible if Tsvangirai can start realizing that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

"without doubt that the hardship that the zimbabweans face is due 99.9% due to the sactions organized by the US and imposed by most of the western countries " Do you mean the sanctions on travel for the Mugabe government ministers? Or the arms embargo? Because these surely have not affected the Zim economy. Or do you mean that the west wont lend money to Zim? Not strictly sanctions as such, but you should also include China and South Africa under this umbrella too, because they also have refused Zim loans. I think my friend you have been blinded by the propoganda that the Mugabe government put out to get re-elected. Ever stop to think that the mis-management of the Mugabe government might be at fault? that the many unproductive farms as a result of the badly executed land reform program might have caused a lack of food in Zimbabwe? And if its all the wests fault, why then is Mugabe negotiating with the MDC to give them some of the power? You really need to get outside the bubble of the herald and realise what is really going on...

Awt.ind, we have been telling you and teaching you about what are sanctions, how they are applied by the west averting the UN, and the very effects of such sanctions in Zimbabwe. It is unfortunate that you are still singing the same song of stupid travel bans since 2001. Read carefully the last paragraph of bush’s speech and ask yourself if this political interference on international finance institutions has to do with genuine business economics. www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011221-15.html

my point is that China and South Africa have also refused to lend Zim money, so you should include them with the West and your sanctions. The notion of sanctions has been used by the mugabe government to create an enemy in the west and thus a need for them to defend the people of Zimbabwe from this enemy. All I'm saying is that this enemy must also be China and it must also be Zimbabwe, as these 'sanctions' only involve the west not lending Zim money.

Indie, are you just as thick as two short planks or what? Many people are telling you what is going down but it just aint getting through to you. Indie, you are not a Zimbabwean and we dont need you biased opinion - go and help the people of Sudan,Somalia and Iraq. WE DONT NEED YOU!

Kube, how is it in New Zealand? Still hiding there like the coward you are? If Mugabe is so great, why dont you go back to Zimbabwe and live under your great leader. Oh, thats right, you're scared. I did see an interesting documentary last night showing how your good friends the Chinese were supplying the Sudanese government with weapons, fighter jets and training after the arms embargo on Sudan was put in place. All in exchange for oil and minerals. Naturally these weapons led to the murder of hundreds of thousands of people in Dafur and now you see the Sudanese president being charged with genocide. One could run some pretty similar paralels to the Chinese weapons ship to Zimbabwbe that got turned away. Geez... and you think the west is trying to destabilise africa... I see the chinese also are spending $9bn in the congo on roads which in turn gives them accces to cobalt and copper mines. Geez... they're a bunch of sell outs arent they.

awt...I saw that documentary too and what is striking about the situation in sudan is that the arabs are killing the black folk because of their race!! not a word of condemnation from the usual pious lot on here. And correct too that the "clean" china is supplying the weapons..the same china that had a ship bobbing aimlessly after they were embarrassed by a handful of people with a bit of decency about them who refused to unload its deadly cargo bound for mugarbage! and I still wonder what the hell this a-kakaboy is doing in a white land if he hates them so much. it is the bready, tea and jamu me thinks..did not know they did Sun Jam in NZ..LOL

Many people are indeed telling us what is going down, and just like you kube, most of them are speaking in Mugabe's voice. And all we seem to hear in Mugabe's defence are the same old stories ..... he may have been the hero in the 1970s, but in the 1980's he switched sides and became the villain and oppressor to his own people.

By the way, why exactly are you over there in New Zealand if Zimbabwe and the Mugabe regime are so competent and caring? Why is it that you are not back out there running as a ZANU-PF propaganda agent?

I personally think you'd do quite well in the field of covering up murders and other atrocities ..... you seem to have that air of almost plausible deniability about you, combined with the fanatical defence of a mass murderer that only a High Court lawyer could pull off with a straight face.

Awt.ind, Zimbabwe does not need money from any individual country to run its industry, agric and mining but from the Breton Woods and other international finance institutions such as Africa Development Bank, Africa Development Fund, UN fund, IFC, etc. Zimbabwe is a nation citizen of the global economic entity and has equal rights to advanced loans/credits/grants like any other nation citizen. Illegal sanctions only come when a group of countries agree to a coercion to force regime change without the UN resolution. Bush commands the ADB and other international finance institutions (13) not to advance loans unless he issue certificates to the effect thereby interfering with apolitical international economic business in his 2001 12 dec speech above. Lending money or vise versa does not constitute sanctions but only a coercion to force regime change which might not directly involve advancing money, but through planning actions that destroys the economic fabric of an enemy nation..

So therefore China and South Africa, who also have refused to lend Zimbabwe money, have sanctions on Zimbabwe.

Whatever happened Mbeki himself is hipocrity who favours mugabe an iligal president who beat his own people.Tsangirai is good he has no human blood,wether he is exprienced or he is the respected.I'm also black,Mbeki should listen to Tsangirai and he Mbeki should tell Mugabe to stop killing as soon as possible.People are suffering

Moves towards reaching a settlement with the monster bloodstained illegitimate President Mugabe will not deter other dictators-in-waiting in Africa, in turn, to kill, maim and rape those who do not espouse their views.

Monster Mugabe and his clique should be tried by the International Criminal Court for genocide and crime against humanity in honour of the tousands of innocents he orderd to kill, maim and rape.

In the meantime, a transitional government should be installed to prepare for democratic elections while humanitarian actions should be undertaken to bring relief to the distressed Zimbabweans and help those exiled to return.

Prem, you don't know what you are talking about! To call Mugabe a bloodstained monster is really out of line. There should be a international court for people like you that spread malicious fabricated lies. Why don't you start a witch hunt for the rhodesian and white South African's that killed and maimed thousands of blacks? And why don't you get Bush and Blair to face international criminal courts for the innocent 100 000 killed in Iraq? It's such a shame that you and your cronies only see one side! Grow up and just leave Zimbabwe alone - Zimbabwe will NEVER die!

Its pretty fair really... it did kill 20,000 of his own people remember kube. blood stained monster really sums it up quite nicely. If you want to comment on bush or brown and Iraq, I'm sure there are plenty of message boards you can. This one is about Zimbabwe. And the butcher of Harare should be the one going to court to face his crimes against humanity.

Liar!!! You are one sided again??? How did you count them? How many SHONAs were murdered in Intumbane and other surrounding areas by yourselves. Remember GISELLA??? The death of family members is very painful. Dont play politics with people's suffering. There were deaths on both sides ..dont you forget that!!!

Akafunboy, once again you need to get yourself an education. Sure there were deaths on both sides, but 20,000 innocent civilians murdered in a "moment of madness" (quote from the butcher of Harare himself" is surely a crime against humanity that should be punished. Are you saying that the 20,000 people murdered by Mugabe should be forgotten, and that Mugabe should get away with this genocidal act? Not forgetting the people that are currently being murdered by Mugabe and his henchmen on daily basis in Zimbabwe right now. Have you figured out who else was involved in the first and second world wars yet? Or are you still stupid?

NO NO NO!!!! l did not say or mean that their suffering is inconsequential... but all you talk about is Ndebele this, Ndebele that and you ignore the murders carried out on Shonas in Bulawayo and the surrounding areas before the unfortunate Gukurahundi event. As long as you are one sided, l shall not join you. Thouands of SHONAs were slaughtered at the time ... people who had lived in the west for generations were targeted just they were of the SHONA nation. I sympathised with Ndebeles who suffered but l must express my condolences to the Shonas who where murdered by the likes of Gasella. l have always been a ZAPU man since my youth days in the mid 1960s and lhave never held a ZANU membership card

How can you condone and support a man who has so blatantly beaten and murdered his own people to retain power?

Kubatana6.........whats your arguement?Are you defending that Old Bob of yours.Are you one of the beneficiaries of the so called Land Reform Program of your uncle Bob?I agree 100%with Prem,that monster must be tried for his crimes against innocent citizens of Zimbabwe.......

The key to zimbabwe's problem is for Migabe to admit that the re-run election was illegitimate and set-up another date for the election without intimidating opposition supporter. Secondly He must also me the condition set up by the opposition party by releasing all the political prisoner he held captive. Suggestion of forming unity Government while opposition supporters are being beating up and killed does not ring the bell at all. The only solution discuss on how the re-run election can be organised with the help of AU PEACE KEEPING FORCE PATROLLING DURING THE ELECTION DAY AS ZIMBABWE SECURITY FORCE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED

Yeeah like they are doing in the Darfur area of western Sudan!!! l mean the AU whatever. Dream dreamer!

Saw an interesting documentary about Darfur last night. Sudan supplies about 6% of China's oil, and is clearly an ally of the Sudanese. 400,000 people have been ethnically clensed by the military regime of General Omar al-Bashir Showed that China was responsible for: 1) Supplying weapons including figher jets to the Sudanese AFTER the arms embargo, and these were used in genocide 2) Consistently blocking efforts at the UN to have Sudan's actions classed as genocide, 3)Consistently blocking efforts at the UN to have a peacekeeping force with the power to protect the people of Darfur put into Sudan. The west is trying to help out, but Mugabe's good friend the Chinese want to stop it. Today any country that is in trouble at the UN over abuses of human rights can always rely on a Chinese veto in the Security Council.

The key to zimbabwe's problem is for Migabe to admit that the re-run election was illegitimate and set-up another date for the election without intimidating opposition supporter. Secondly He must also met the condition set up by the opposition party by releasing all the political prisoner he held captive. Suggestion of forming unity Government while opposition supporters are being beating up and killed does not ring the bell at all. The only solution honest discussion on how the re-run election can be organised with the help of AU PEACE KEEPING FORCE PATROLLING DURING THE ELECTION DAY AS ZIMBABWE SECURITY FORCE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED. sanction on arm supplier to current zimbabwe Government is neccessary order to prevent genocide in the country is very important. For Russian and China to opposed sanction on Zimbabwe political crisis show they are profited from the crisis

couldnt agree more. The will of the people is what will solve this crisis.

I guess it's too much to celebrate the fact that Zimbabweans are working together on finding Zimbabwean solutions to Zimbabwean problems.

Yeah it is I guess. Mugabe must be counting his lucky stars to be in the position of power given the populaltion clearly voted against him. No harm in mass beatings, murder, torture and intimidation now is there....

The record shows that less than half the population voted for the other guy, whilst a similar number voted for Mugabe in the first round. In the run-off, 85% of voters voted for Mugabe. It wasn't luck.

For once I agree... certainly wasnt luck. As I said, No harm in mass beatings, murder, torture and intimidation now is there....

Working together! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah There is about as much working together as there was with the US and Cuba in there darkest day. Selector you really do not care at all for the starving and sick of Zimbabwe! Selector i see you having nothing better to do with your life than degrade the good people of Zimbabwe like mugabe and his regime do.You need to see the world is and will step in and help Zimbabwe whether you like it or not as the are helping a large part of the population already outside of Zimbabwe. Let me guess you are not in Zimbabwe and you would have no problems with the people of the country you are in just coming and beating you and stealing everything you own because you are no one of them? Worse still if they did the same and you came from that country! Unlike you i care for the good people in Zimbabwe and care they have there say and have there rights, when they do i will have no need to say anything more on Zimbabwe, except well done!

couldnt agree more...

the west, from an MDC statement yesterday:

"The MDC accepts the position of the ANC that there must be "an inclusive and peaceful political settlement that reflects the will of the Zimbabwean people." The MDC reiterates its position that we are committed to genuine dialogue, which will pave way for a political settlement which is inclusive and reflects the will of the people of Zimbabwe".

http://allafrica.com/stories/200807141182.html

Why must you be so negative about the prospect of resolution, like your namesame? Why must you wish failure on "genuine dialogue", like your namesake? Meanwhile, like I said, Zimbabweans are working on resolving their differences.

Also, in case you have failed to notice or are blind to the obvious, the West has repeatedly tried to interfere and has repeatedly and successfully been rejected. Thank goodness.

But didnt Mugabe win the poll outright, why does he need to negotiate with the MDC (ie the west)? According to the herald, the runoff gave him a clear mandate to rule? Surely by negotiating to give the MDC some power he is recoginising that his win was illegitimate, and by negotiating with the MDC (ie the west) this gives him some form of legitimacy... the more power he gives the MDC, the more legitimate his rule is. But wait... dont the MDC want to recolonise Zimbabwe? Dont they only want Zimbabwe's resources for the west? Aaah thats right... Mugabe has sold them all to China. The dirty big sell out.

midexosiguwa, snap out of it. You won't be simplyfing Zimbabwe's real problems so you small mind can cope today, this year or even this decade.

Zimbabwe's problem is simple Selector, if mugabe and regime go the country will be on the road to a fast recovery. As the real inflation rate is over 10 million percent now, some thing will have to give very soon and it will be mugabe and regime that will have to give as i can see a civil war happening very soon is they don't.People will only watch there children starve and die for so long before they realise that if they are going to die they might as well die fighting mugabe and regime. It is human nature pure and simple! I think you will find there is a huge storm brewing and when it unleashes it's fury, mugabe and regime will be gone.

I will make you a bet selector that mugabe and regime will run like the wind when the trouble starts or die trying to flee.Mugabe is a coward and he will run and try and hide.

What i would like to see happen is this.

A security company setup around the world with ex SAS,ex special forces,pilots etc etc to train security guards that just happen to be exiled Zimbabweans around the world{there is a millions of them to pick the best and willing from to train}. Train them to a very high standard way above the current Zimbabwe army standard.Then give them security jobs in Zimbabwe's neighboring countries so they earn the money to buy there arms{wink wink nudge nudge if you get my drift}.also let them be the sole security guards of stocks of advanced arms,vehicles and aircraft,if they get stolen, some how, dock there pay a few dollars for the millions in advance arms! Then move into Zimbabwe in a tactical way that mugabe and regime cannot escape.Covert ground to air missiles can me sent in first to stop mugabe and regime flying out while others ground aircraft.Once the aircraft have gone the exiles have freedom of the air and mugabe and regime trapped to ground.Missile batteries in neighboring countries will seal the airspace out. The advanced courses now available make it much simpler to train even a novice to a high level, very quickly.

Let the good people of Zimbabwe do what mugabe and mbeki want and let Zimbabweans sort there own problems out by slaughtering mugabe and regime!

I say exiles unite to rid mugabe and regime from your homeland.

All these Mugabe brainwashed nincompoops, have no shame. Like I said before, they are the dumb bloody asses all blindly following Mugabe in his destruction, looting and bringing their country to its knees. Now that the country is ruined beyond measure, who are they calling upon to come and clean up Mugabe's rotten filth? Mr Tavangirai, the very man whose eyes were beaten black and blue, whose MDC supporters were beaten and murdered by Mugabe's thugs. They labeled Mr Tsvangirai 'a puppet of the west' and put him down in so many ways. Now look at them, because of Mr Tsvangirai they are hoping for a better Zimbabwe with their tails between their legs like all hypocrites do. Shame, shame on them. They need to apologize to him and send their condolences to all the MDC supporters whose family members were killed by the butcher's thugs. I hope Mr Tsvangirai pulls Zimbabwe out of the mess and Mugabe eventuality goes where all garbage goes - down the sewers.