The Nation (Nairobi)
15 Octobre 2008
The deadlock in the Zimbabwe power-sharing deal is threatening to revive the messy diplomatic confrontation between Zimbabwe and its diamond-rich neighbour, Botswana.
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Poor onesoulzim1 !
Why do you waste our precious time? Stop your nonsense that one country should not criticize the folly of a neighbouring country!
Beware when you expell millions of your citizens who are well received in Botswana, you should feel terribly ashamed that somebody else should be looking after your children! What a cowardness!
When you violate the basic rights of your brothers and sisters, you should expect harsh treatment. Prepare yourself for a very unsettled time when the MDC will command the Home Affairs Ministry. You may not have the courage to face the truth, coward as you are!
Who says people like you can build a sound and prosperous nation. You can only thrive on the misery of the masses!
Stop being an idiot! Improve your political perception and join in making Zimbabwe a better place devoid of rampant corruption and where everybody should have equal rights to rise socially on merit.
Maybe, that's waht you do not want to happen. As it would drastically reduce your chances of making quick bucks on the back of the suffering masses.
Shame on you. Even your kids will spit on you for having failed to stop the genocide against MDC supporters by murderer Mugabe and thugs!
onesoul1, maybe the Batswana are simply expressing their opinions that Zimbabwe with all it's educated population and resources is still having a hard time fixing it's own problems. Zimbabwe has a whole lot of "commentors" who do not want to put their own theories into practise.
What a fool u are!. No one will reply to ur immature and childish statements. Wake up! It seems like you have never seen light at the end of the tunnel. It seems to me and to the rest of Africa that you never embrace the spirit of Africanism which is Ubuntu. What Botswana is trying to do here is to ensure that the Zimbabwean people stops suffering. Botswana is not posing for a fight as you think. It is naive of you to think of war in this pressing times of Zimbabwe. As a matter of fact you should not have been allowed to air those naive and childish views online. ( Concerned Tswana)
Basically, what you are saying (onesoulzim) is that if you are a drunkard, or a drug abuser, or even a child molester, no one should critisize you because those critisizing you might become just what you are somewhere in the unknown future. I just can't believe one can have such naive reasoning. It is sad we see the same pattern in most African leaders; their silence over the plunders of Mugabe. Remember Botswana has one of the best governance records in the world, just to get your thinking straight.
What Botswana is doing is very African in the traditional way of settling disputes. They should be commended for their steadfastness and forthrightness in contrast to the hiding behind diplomatic nicities and platitudes that Mbeki has made a career out of. A true friend is the one who tells you the truth not lies. That shows he or she cares for you. Botswana would not only be an irresponsible African country but also a bad neighbor(ing country) if they didn't speak out; afterall when exiles wash over the borders they end up in neighboring countries -- as they have now. It isn't that Botswana thinks they are better than Zimbabwe but that for now Zimbabwe could benefit from genuine help -- not phoney biased arbitration from the likes of Mbeki. Unfortunately Mbeki's best days are behind him. Botswana is especially right to insist that a new set of negotiators that doesn't included the discarded Mbeki need to be appointed to resolve the unfortunate Zimbabwean debacle. Zimbabweans: not everybody is against Zimbabwean; the seige mentality of a falling sky on Zimbabwe is only perpetrated by Mugabe and his cohorts to retain illegimate power for eternity.
Parroting is not an African way of speaking one mind. We have our ways of telling each other the truth which is not in common with the imperialists. African elders sit together and talk and that is exactly what our leaders have so far been doing. However vilified Mbeki has done an excellent job and no one could have done it better.
Parroting is not an African way of speaking one mind. We have our ways of telling each other the truth which is not in common with the imperialists. As a matter of fact am not amazed at Ian Khama and his cohorts comments about Zim as he is simply imitating his colonial uncles. African elders sit together and talk and that is exactly what our leaders have so far been doing. However vilified Mbeki has done an excellent job and no one could have done it better.
That would be a good start. Zimbabwe does not deserve diplomatic relations with anyone until its leaders become civilized nad start serving their populations. Currently there are just blood-sucking dictators who cannot claim equality to their regional counterparts.
My good discassants, we read from different books. Firstly Botswana does not have a good gvnce record from my school of thought. I acknowledge the heaping of such nonsense from western tabloids about Botswana and from my experience it is to enhance their docility towards indigenous control of resources. Zimbabwe’s Mugabe was once awashed with such blatant uplifting empty superlatives by the west while natives here were reduced to sub salaried work forces for whites. The demonising of Zimbabwe only came when indigenous wealth creation took up the 80% of prime farming land from the only 400 white racist farmers. Let Botswana indigenize ALL mineral extraction and stop selling their diamonds through European distribution points in Paris, London and New York then your “world” will be quick to point out how the country is militarized from controversial Khama’s appointment, Khama dynasty nepotism, and the neglected batswana in semi desert areas who spent more time with goats in a small country of huge diamond mineral deposits. Today 95% of their adverts on prime time national TV are American home ads with no essence to the poor tswanas who struggle to rear goats all of their time.
What Zimbabwe is passing through is inevitable in any once colonized nation that will seek total liberation of the neo-colonized economy by emancipating the indigenous. The onslaught from resource mongers who have proved disastrous to world communities will have to come the way of liberators just like in Latin America and Asia and the Arab world today. Africans are not silent on Mugabe but they sure know what they need and what will befall of them if they express such need as Mugabe did.
Botswana is free to criticize its neighbor with facts and not half backed evidence that only points to the effects of a western engineered annihilation of the Zimbabwean economy. Average thinkers know that by putting the Zimbabwean economy to the ground we will rise against the liberation leadership. While we are pursuing a unified approach in a GNU that safeguard our hardly won independence, farms and factories, Botswana has taken it upon itself to agitate for the demise of Mugabe as planned by the west when they put sanctions on our country. It has been ten years when Zimbabwe was stopped to trade with the traditional finance institutions for mere political expediency of the west : http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011221-15.html
Let Batswana criticize such blatant political mischief of George Bush against Zimbabwe for it led to an unbalanced electoral inclination and a biasly manipulated political barometer. Let Botswana also express how the west failed to dislodge Mugabe through their ill conceived economic war. Khama and crooners must stop being America’s chihwahwas that only make noise for their boss in the US/UK when they are sitting on the same time bomb once its nationals come to grips with self determination.
Surely, Mugabe is a plunderer who took All prime land from mere 400 white farmers and gave it to his NONDESERVING black family cronies of more than three million – why is he not having a landslide majority lead on national elections if his cronies (3million plus) are the only ones with land?
Botswana has surpassed the level of security suspicion in the region and today we treat its gvt as a proxy of American militarism. Botswana’s pathetic stance on Operation Restore Sovereignty against SADC in the Congo was only to promote British and American mining interests and since then this minute country has been basking on false good gvnce rhetoric from the west. The western sponsored opposition and khama’s gvt would want to expose and neutralize the military and security capabilities of the region by advocating for its control in Zimbabwe. The UK’s Blair was once advised not to invade Zimbabwe by his generals for fear of Russian and Chinese military capabilities in Zim and the region – MDC will just sellout like Botswana and weaken the region. Lest we forget that our regional independence was born out of protracted struggles against Khama and Tsvangirai’s sponsors.
Of all mentioned by Botswana and opposition, there is no rescue plan for the economy managed to put down through western sanctions.
Onesoulzim, just understand one thing. As long as Mugabe continues crapping in Zimbabwe, those sanctions against him will remain irrespective of whether George Bush, Barack Obama, or John McCain are the leaders of America. Don't kid yourself in thinking that once the governance of the United State changes, Mugabe's wrong doings will be forgotten. In fact things will tighten up against Mugabe if he continues with the path he is taking.
Listening to Botswana’s foreign minister ranting against Zimbabwe’s political leadership led by President Mugabe last night, I could only feel sorry for the tiny neighbor’s political intelligencia. If this is la crème of Batswana then lord have mercy.
Every country in this world will have a crisis of some sort sometime; Botswana thinks they will never have a political crisis making them childish thinkers. Diamond rich but they are going begging! Emancipation is sure coming to Botswana and it will have political intricacies and divergent views on the way to total liberation. Zimbabwe was like Botswana in the 80’s when its citizenry had political positions while the economic power was with the oppressors. The rise of batwana is sure coming and Zimbabwe will be there to share experience.