Author: femi
Fri Dec 12 21:02:57 2008

Is this new development connected to the Birth Certificate controversy surrounding President-Elect Obama? Some of his relatives and in particular is grand-mother (who never left Kenya) claim that she was "there" when Obama was born 1961.

More and more news organizations in the US are covering stories claiming that Obama was actually born in Kenya and not in Hawai. Other legal experts believe that even if Obama was born in the USA, he may still not be eligible for the office of President of the United States because he was not a "natural born US citizen" at birth. They argue that for someone to be considered a "natural born citizen" both of his parents must be US nationals, which is not the case for Obama because his father was from Kenya,which was still a British Colony in 1961. An application for a stay and/or injunction as to the Electoral College meeting on for a stay and/or injunction as to the Electoral College meeting on Dec. 15 was today referred to the Supreme Court and It has even been distributed for Conference of Friday December 12. http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm

The Chicago Tribune which is one the main newspaper in the States of Illinois(Obama's home state) covered this story a few days ago: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html

Author: jallohlaw
Fri Dec 12 23:02:15 2008

HARVARD LAW SCHOOL LEGAL ANALYSIS 101

The issue is closed. THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS PASSED ON THE ISSUE: PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is a United States citizen.

I agree with the Supremes.

Author: dosreal
Mon Dec 15 15:11:01 2008

Obama is hot as at now, therefore anything regarding the president- elect attracts people. They are curious, they have not had enough of him yet. It is known that common people are especially attracted to negative stories about famous or powerful people. The media knows that. So the crap about President elect Obama birth place is just one of the stories that flourishes their business. Stop the crap, haters. OBAMA IS AMERICAN, FROM THE USA.

Author: Rhodes
Tue Jan 13 17:08:59 2009

You're an illiterate idiot. The only crap to stop is the crap Obama dishes out. If he is US born, he would have proved it by now. He isn't, so he hasn't. If the "rumors" and "smears" ever stop, it will be because he finally showed his real birth certificate. He can stop this any time he chooses to do so. Of course, as soon as he does so, he won't be president any more.

Author: makenyaluv
Thu Dec 25 14:15:32 2008

You know this is why we need Obama and I am glad that you brought this up because a lot of black babies were born at home! We need Birth Certificates with at least 2 generations including cousin's this would really help the Police, and Hosptals, Some people leave wills and some don't. We all need to become one family and give money up! Why can't we just keep our stories Straight! Idenity theft has been a problem since Moses A false report should be against the law!(and not published like toxic waste)

Author: femi
Sat Dec 13 00:31:47 2008

The birth certificate issue is not closed. The US Supreme Court still has to decide whether or not it can hear the Cort Wrotnowski vs Susan Bysiewicz, case. http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a469.htm

President Elect Obama seems to be aware of these controversies given the fact that a copy of his birth certificate has been posted on his web site at http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate as a proof that he was indeed born in the USA

I personally believe that the suit will be dismissed by the Supreme Court Justices because of the constitutional chaos, and destabilizing effect such a hearing would create in the US. However the decision of the Kenyan authorities to block members of the Obama family to speak to the media seems to vindicate all those who believe that the President Elect has something to hide regarding this matter.

President-Elect Obama will face a lot of challenges both at home and abroad once he is sworn in and this controversy surrounding his place of birth will be used by his enemies to blackmail him throughout his mandate. One can at least be sure of one thing: under President Obama Kenya will continue to be “a strong ally”of the US in Africa.

Author: jallohlaw
Sat Dec 13 00:55:04 2008

The wrongheaded action was deep sixed by the Supremes, period.

I shall not revisit this silly issue again. If you wish, you may check the Supremes' website.

Now, let us focus on the Kenyan obscurantists. The Supreme Court of Hawaii's determination in favor of Obama was AFFIRMED by the Supremes.

If so, and it is thus, then the clamp up directive, if credible, can only issue from a 'government' seeped in Odingaism, and Odinga is an ignoramus in matters political---and now, sadly and ominously, juridical matters.

May God save us from the silly antics of this clown of African politics.

Odinga, take a nap, dude!

YOU APPEAR TO BE RUNNING ON EMPTY.

Greetings from the City of Vigor, Harare.

Author: femi
Sat Dec 13 07:56:55 2008

I agree with you with reference to Odinga. I however want to bring to your attention the fact that there is a strong connection between Obama and Odinga. In August and September 2006, the now President-Elect Barack Obama traveled to South Africa, Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Chad and Kenya as a congressional delegation. While in Kenya, Obama consistently appeared at the side of fellow Raila Odinga (“your agent for change’), who was running for President.

Obama’s partisan support for Odinga was considered so transparent, that the Kenyan Government spokesman, Alfred Matua, complained of political posturing to aid Odinga’s election chances: “It is very clear that the senator has been used as a puppet to perpetuate opposition politics (http://www.newsweek.com/id/45558?tid=relatedcl)

So if President-Elect Obama is to rely on African allies such as Raila Odinga, one can easily assume that US policies in Africa will for be sure catastrophic. And as you probably know Raila Odinga is currently considered as the “good guy”, "an african statesman" in the western corporate media

Author: jallohlaw
Sat Dec 13 18:27:53 2008

Thanks for the tendered information.

I have reviewed the matter, and the amgiguities therein preclude me from passing on Obama's motives.

However, that is a side issue.

If Obama, after January 29, CHOOSES to implement the program of the REACTION, no level headed person should be surprised.

Why, Tutu, Mandela, Annan are the vanguard of the REACTION in Africa. And, the mentioned troika is allegedly determined by the predicate 'african.' Now, since Obama ain't no African, if he chooses to follow the warped vision of the troika, any surpise would be juvenile.

Accordingly, the choice is Obama's.

We have no control over the exercise of his DISCRETION.

Control however, we have, over our determined opposition to any and all efforts of the REACTION to destabilize our MAMA AFRICA.

And, glory to Africa; down with her enemies!

Author: Rhodes
Tue Jan 13 17:18:10 2009

Oh, I think "Mama Africa's" main enemy is herself. Rhodesia to Zimbabwe or Breadbasket to Shithole only took one generation.

Author: ragtimer
Mon Dec 15 17:33:35 2008

The birth certificate issue is closed, by the will of the US citizens. He could be a native of Mars and he would still be the president-elect. The birth certificate scandal is just the last gasp of the racists who can't deal with the existence of a black US president.

Author: Rhodes
Tue Jan 13 17:27:12 2009

If he (president elect) had beenl White and there was a question about the possibility of him being born in Germany instead of Hawaii, I believe there would have been a media onslaught against him with the resulting order by the Supreme Court for him to produce all personal records in order to prove his was eligible to hold the office. That would be politically correct. For the courts to require that of a "Black" candidate would be racist and politically incorrect, an thus it was not done. This is also the reason for the media blackout on the subject. And, it won't be going away any time soon. The truth will come out at some point.

Author: akech
Tue Dec 16 22:33:00 2008

If President-Elect Obama was born in Kenya and finally came to USA, there must be plenty of travelling proofs of that in US Embassy or whoever was handling exits and entries into/out of USA

(a) She must have travelled to Kenya with the Obama's late father holding some passport (b) She must have obtained visa to travel to Kenya if she was holding American passport and US passport department must have issued that passport. That information somewhere in their files at US immigration office or (c) She must have been issed with a Kenyan passport and USA entry visa back into the United States of America and that information must be available somewhere in US embassy in Kenya

(b) Baby Obama, a travelling infant, must have been issued with infant travelling documents to travel with his mother back to USA (Hawaii) where he grew up unless he was kidnapped by some UFO aliens abundant in USA!

The above documents must be available to these racist propaganda or those loose-lips Kenyans trying to make money by saying anything to spread the nonsense!!

Author: putdown08
Wed Dec 17 14:33:17 2008

Akech what you said is the whole truth but there are muppets who will do anything to slate Obama they havent come to terms with Barrack obama presidents elect of USA. As i had posted earlier let them just tell me how the birth cert should look like i will produce one, of course at a premium.

Author: mwhite333
Tue Dec 23 04:04:48 2008

Akech:

You are absolutely correct. The allegation that Obama was borm in Kenya is the product of a racist attempt to disqualify him. If in fact his 18 year old mther would have had to get a pass port or other documents to travel to kenya to have a baby. There is no such evidence. If these racists really were serious, they could pull documentation from the state department.

Author: mcgrewmx
Sat Dec 20 08:46:12 2008

This is the truth on Obama: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/106642-3/

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/106684-3/

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/09-12-2008/106807-Obama_Conspir acy_Theory_Nuts-0

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/02-12-2008/106778-Amazing_Obama -0

http://heyokamagazine.com/heyoka_magazine.23.codeobamma.htm

Author: makenyaluv
Fri Dec 26 11:13:26 2008

I wish that America would adopt some of these rules. There should be a muffler law.

Author: Babu Lonnie
Sun Dec 28 13:52:40 2008

President Elect Bbama has been duly elected by the American people. We now need to pray for him and support the decision that has been made...and move on with life. Congrdulations to Mr. Obama and to the efforts of the Kenyan government to recognize him and his Kenyan heritage. But let the family speak, they are very proud of their family member. Kenya is standing as a strong democracy, don't stumble by censoring the speech of the people.

I am a Kenyan at heart and hope to live there sometime in the very near future.

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